Swimming in 4.0 [Disscussion]

[LionFury1]

I personally don't like how they are adding swimming. It just seems so wasted compared to flying. Once I get the aether currents what need would I have to go in there beside gathering or being forced to go in there? I just hope they don't invest too much into swimming then in the end its not used much. From what they showed just seems like "hey we have swimming now! for reasons!". I am glad you can't fight in water but any game which has swimming ended up just being a waste and never done right. Which is why most games not don't invest much into swimming now... it's just not worth it for a way of travel.

Honestly flying is just as much as an aesthetic as swimming is and isn't necessary to the game. The only thing flying does is grant us a faster mode of transportation which could have technically been fulfilled by just increasing movement speed on land. What both flying and swimming do is place things within the game out of reach if you can't fly or swim/dive. You can't reach some parts of churning mist and sea of clouds without flying, but was that super necessary? No, but is it enjoyable to the game experience to have some things be limited without being able to fly to it? Heck yeah.

For the same reason, swimming is a desirable addition because they can add dungeons and NPCs that are only accessible by diving to them that make more sense to be in water based off the lore than it would make sense to be on dry land. For example, the Sahagin beast tribe really makes zero sense being on dry land. They should have been a beast tribe we would encounter during underwater exploration. It would also add fun dimensions to dungeons also where you might have to swim through a cavern or dive within a dungeon to get to the next boss.

Having swimming allows FFXIV to have more continuity instead of weird invisible walls every time you encounter water and allows the devs to come up with unique concepts like underwater cities like Atlantis. I'm actually secretly hoping that our new residential area is a underwater residence.The housing can exist within air pockets, but the majority of the area could be underwater. It would honestly be unique and incredibly beautiful.

[Beckett]

I swear if I can't doggie paddle i will bite someone, ;P

Not to start with, unfortunately. Sprint(run?) = Crawl, Walk = Breaststroke

But maybe the animations will be different for Lalas.

[SigmaOZ]

Final Fantasy X says underwater battles are just fine!...

Producer Yoshida should be aware of that and the dev team should be able to implement that system!...

It's worth to remember that only Tidus, Wakka and Rikku were able to fight underwater, that probably means not all jobs could do it and not all actions would be possible but then you can't expect to battle while diving without any kind of tradeoff!...

[Hakuro89]

Awesome as this is it's not really THAT surprising to me. The 3D movement system was already in place from flying.

[Derio]

What if there are nodes underwater? Gathering on a whole different level

[Eul]

Final Fantasy X says underwater battles are just fine!...

Producer Yoshida should be aware of that and the dev team should be able to implement that system!...

It's worth to remember that only Tidus, Wakka and Rikku were able to fight underwater, that probably means not all jobs could do it and not all actions would be possible but then you can't expect to battle while diving without any kind of tradeoff!...

Remember the arcanist story quest? It literally shows that our book become useless after soaked...

[Neophyte]

Final Fantasy X says underwater battles are just fine!...

Producer Yoshida should be aware of that and the dev team should be able to implement that system!...

It's worth to remember that only Tidus, Wakka and Rikku were able to fight underwater, that probably means not all jobs could do it and not all actions would be possible but then you can't expect to battle while diving without any kind of tradeoff!...

Fire IV *tzzschhh*
Fire IV *tzzschhh*
BLM hesitates.
Thunder III *bzzzzzt*
Wipe.

[Belhi]

Final Fantasy X says underwater battles are just fine!...

Producer Yoshida should be aware of that and the dev team should be able to implement that system!...

It's worth to remember that only Tidus, Wakka and Rikku were able to fight underwater, that probably means not all jobs could do it and not all actions would be possible but then you can't expect to battle while diving without any kind of tradeoff!...

Final Fantasy 10 was a completely different combat system. Underwater combat in MMOs is almost universal in how unpopular it ends up being. Even GW2 who put extra effort into it kind of sidelined it when it turned out to have a luke warm response from players.

[Felis]

Final Fantasy X says underwater battles are just fine!...

Producer Yoshida should be aware of that and the dev team should be able to implement that system!...

It's worth to remember that only Tidus, Wakka and Rikku were able to fight underwater, that probably means not all jobs could do it and not all actions would be possible but then you can't expect to battle while diving without any kind of tradeoff!...

The battle was not much different than on land
Bad guys on the left, good guys on the right, let's start
It will not work like this in XIV

[Renik]

Not that i would hate underwater combat (in fact i was a beast killing ppls underwarter in GW2 pvp lol) but i dont see it woring in ffxiv, unless system forces us to just walk underweater like you do in the Sunken shrine in ffI.