Garo x Final Fantasy XIV announced to involve PvP starts on Jan 17

[Nezerius]

I'm on a 'white-girl level of can't even' right now...

Seems more like you're on a 'pretending to know something that isn't common knowledge level' right now, since I doubt Garo is wildly popular in the West.

I had never heard about it before info on this collaboration event was shown in the recent live letter, and from the few things I've read about the TV series, it's a group of Makai Knights (seemingly similar to Power Rangers, just for a mature audience) that fight off Horrors (sorta like demons?). Please elaborate what part about this is so obviously related to PvP?

I mean...its not like the Makai Knights don't fight each other sometimes. No, Not at all.
And this totally isn't judging a book by it's cover at all either!

You say this like it's common knowledge that I was supposed to already know, when it's a fact that the majority of the NA/EU playerbase probably never heard of Garo before the recent live letter. Thanks for the sarcasm-drenched explanation though.

Three year's worth of pve events and the one time the pvp community gets the option to do an event through pvp, people complain. Lol.

Like I said earlier in the thread, I'd have no issues with collaboration events (possibly even seasonal events) having both PvE and PvP stuff. And not in the sense of one getting a watered down version of the other's rewards.

[Chocolys]

Will be reported and banned, throwing matches is not tolerated.

I highly doubt the easy winning team will bother reporting the opposite dancing team

More like just kick em. They get a long pvp que and waste it by being worthless.

Who will kick who when the whole team is dancing xD, unless you're talking only about a solo queuing dancer annoying the rest of the team.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I highly doubt the easy winning team will bother reporting the opposite dancing team



Who will kick who when the whole team is dancing xD, unless you're talking only about a solo queuing dancer annoying the rest of the team.

There IS such a thing as honorable competition and sportsmanship. Or are you saying that kind of behavior would be perfectly acceptable in professional sports too?

[Aviars]

I highly doubt the easy winning team will bother reporting the opposite dancing team



Who will kick who when the whole team is dancing xD, unless you're talking only about a solo queuing dancer annoying the rest of the team.

You assume a lot, but I can't wait to report them all and get them banned

[StarRosie]

You say this like it's common knowledge that I was supposed to already know, when it's a fact that the majority of the NA/EU playerbase probably never heard of Garo before the recent live letter. Thanks for the sarcasm-drenched explanation though.

You're right, the sarcasm was a little overboard, I'm sorry, that was my bad.


Also I wouldn't call it a fact, so far I've seen a pretty good mix of people who do and don't know what Garo is and that a PVP event does suit the series. While the live action series for Garo may not be well known in the west (Due to only airing in Japan.), the anime has actually been rather successful over in the west, specially since Funi has been pimping it out everywhere.

A cursory glance under the cover of Garo would show that the Makai Knights fight much more then Horrors and occasionally have infighting. But you also have to take into account that while yes, FFXIV is worldwide, it is made in Japan, by a Japanese company, who just partnered with a popular Director/Designer to do design work for their new expansion, who is also the brains behind a TV series that is huge in Japan.

Combine this with the data that the community HATED the fate grinding for the Yokai Watch event and it would take a lot of extra time and money to create special content like a dungeon or special mobs to hunt, just for the Garo event and then, combine that knowledge with the fact they are addressing a major issue in PVP (The GC restrictions that cause HUUUUUUGE wait times of 30+ minutes.) and you can see why they would pick PVP for this event. They want to draw more people there. At least they were nice enough to give people who don't want to get into PVP an option to still obtain the event items, unlike previous events where the options were "Do it or get nothing."

[Chocolys]

There IS such a thing as honorable competition and sportsmanship. Or are you saying that kind of behavior would be perfectly acceptable in professional sports too?

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not advocating it, I'm just expecting that many players who dislike PvP and who would "unhappily" do the PvP just for the rewards would probably not bother playing correctly from being kind of idle to running around like chickens . So basically motivated PvP players might be stuck with unexperienced and unmotivated players during the event.

At least if they queue as group of 4 peoples, the only "annoyance" will be an easy win offered to the opposite team. That's better than random solo players messing the game for their teammates.

[Nezerius]

Also I wouldn't call it a fact, so far I've seen a pretty good mix of people who do and don't know what Garo is and that a PVP event does suit the series. While the live action series for Garo may not be well known in the west (Due to only airing in Japan.), the anime has actually been rather successful over in the west, specially since Funi has been pimping it out everywhere.

Perhaps it's more of a thing in the NA region, as I've never heard anything about it in the EU, nor have I ever heard anything about it while playing on Balmung (but then again, I rarely hang out in Idleshire, so perhaps I've missed it).

A cursory glance under the cover of Garo would show that the Makai Knights fight much more then Horrors and occasionally have infighting. But you also have to take into account that while yes, FFXIV is worldwide, it is made in Japan, by a Japanese company, who just partnered with a popular Director/Designer to do design work for their new expansion, who is also the brains behind a TV series that is huge in Japan.

I understand that JP devs pick things that are popular in Japan when it comes to developing things for their games (Little Ladies Day, for example, that's a JP thing right?). I just glanced at the main plot point that came up when googling Garo, and it didn't mention anything about infighting. Didn't claim to know everything about the show based on that, and simply asked how it was relevant to PvP.

Combine this with the data that the community HATED the fate grinding for the Yokai Watch event and it would take a lot of extra time and money to create special content like a dungeon or special mobs to hunt, just for the Garo event and then, combine that knowledge with the fact they are addressing a major issue in PVP (The GC restrictions that cause HUUUUUUGE wait times of 30+ minutes.) and you can see why they would pick PVP for this event. They want to draw more people there. At least they were nice enough to give people who don't want to get into PVP an option to still obtain the event items, unlike previous events where the options were "Do it or get nothing."

Not sure if it'd take all that much time, since they could possibly just use the hunt system, with hostile humanoid mobs wearing the obtainable gear with a slightly corrupted texture added to it, along with NPC wearing the obtainable gear giving out a simple tokens (similar to the daily hunts) to hunt down x in y zone. But I'll agree that it's still easier to just toss it on a vendor for a PvP currency and be done with it.

[Chocolys]

Do we know if the event will use a special temporary currency for GS or PvP, or if it will just use MGP and regular PvP tokens?

[StarRosie]

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I'm gonna simplify my reply a bit cause I need to get off the forums, kinda gettin' heated from a different thread. Don't want that spilling over onto you or others.

I think they are taking the easy route on this because of Stormblood development. They don't wanna split off man power and hours from Stormblood just to make some special hunt stuff for the collab and while some can call that laziness, I'd call that thinking about the long game. I agree, a PVE hunt thing where you hunt down Horrors in game would be cool. But that would take time and people of Stormblood.

[lovelikewinter]

Seems more like you're on a 'pretending to know something that isn't common knowledge level' right now, since I doubt Garo is wildly popular in the West.

So...google is a thing.

It's a great tool you can use to educate yourself about things you may not have heard of or seen before! That's typically what I do when something piques my curiosity and I care to know more about it.

It's also good to be knowledgeable about a subject before you enter into a debate about it as well, so perhaps you should keep that in mind for future reference.