Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[Jandor]

This Jump Potion is brilliant. I honestly don't think most of the people advocating against it have any idea as to how droll and boring most people consider the quest progression to get to Heavensward.

Few people deny the problem, many think this is a terrible solution to it.

"We've made our game overly long and boring, give us money to make it fun!"

[Lambdafish]

Few people deny the problem, many think this is a terrible solution to it.

"We've made our game overly long and boring, give us money to make it fun!"

It's actually even less than that, it's not a solution at all, because it doesn't fix the problem at all, only places a camouflaged blanket over the top of it.

It would be more accurate to say "Give us money so you don't have to look at the problem anymore", and the fact that a good portion of people are content with a solution like this is sad.



Off topic about WoWs jump potion: I was wondering if someone could enlighten me on how accessible WoWs endgame content is without a jump potion? How long would it reasonably take to access all that content as a brand new player?

[Keitou]

This Jump Potion is brilliant. I honestly don't think most of the people advocating against it have any idea as to how droll and boring most people consider the quest progression to get to Heavensward.

It seems to me that you fail to understand that there are some players who are offering better solutions than the jump potion. As you can see, the jump potion has proven to be divisive and controversial. And also, we want to fix up ARR so new players can enjoy the game from the very start. New players judge whether to continue playing the game from the start. First impressions are very important granted that they are completely new. They will want to experience ARR first, before buying expansions. Lacking perspective? Not at all, the reasons why we take issue with ARR is completely for the sake of new players.

I fail to understand why there are some people (For the potion) who are so bent on assuming that all or most people who are against the potion as people who do not care about the perspectives of new players. This is most disappointing that we have people think this way. I'm not even completely against the jump potion as I said before and I repeat, I think there is a better alternative available.

I share your frustrations and feelings as well, I had so many friends quit the game because of ARR.

[Velhart]

It seems to me that you fail to understand that there are some players who are offering better solutions than the jump potion. As you can see, the jump potion has proven to be divisive and controversial. And also, we want to fix up ARR so new players can enjoy the game from the very start. New players judge whether to continue playing the game from start. First impressions are very important granted that they are completely new. They will want to experience ARR first, before buying expansions. I said this already. Lacking perspective? Not at all, the reasons why we take with issue with ARR is completely for the sake of new players.

I fail to understand why there are people who are so bent on assuming that all or most people who are against the potion as people who do not care about the perspectives of new players. This is most disappointing that we have people think this way.

Here is the truth. You can restructure ARR and HW all you want. You can make it damn near flawless. It will not take away the fact that there will be people not interested in doing it and want to jump to the raiding scene or with their friends. I don't condone people wanting to skip content the developers worked hard to make, but if they are wanting to skip through everything and jump to the expansion start line and they are willing to pay to do it. I only see this as making the best of a situation on the developer's side.

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On a general note about the potions:

Like I said I don't condone people wanting to skip content or not take in the world, but that is their choice and how they want to play it. If they want to cough up more money to skip, then that is just more that is going into SE's funds for upcoming content.

People really shouldn't care about the actions of others if it does not affect your game at all. Before you do the "more bad players ruin my experience" excuse, that is already a thing and people who buy jump potions will not change the good to bad ratio.

Also, how many people are honestly going to cough up 25-50 dollars for these potions? People act like in here that the whole population of new players are just going to buy jump potions.

It is pretty silly how paranoid some in here are about the potion.

[Lambdafish]

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Heres the thing though, it's all about context. The jump potions are being proposed as a fix to a problem caused by the MSQ. People are against it, not on principle, but because it is a terrible solution to that problem (because the problem doesn't get fixed and will manifest - see some of the many paragraphs over the last few pages that I have wrote). Right now, if the problem were fixed correctly, there would be no need for a jump potion, as players would be able to get through it at a reasonable pace, or just straight up not have to do it all to access the content (not likely for current content, but a necessity for future content, there are other solutions for current content). When, and only when, the content becomes substantial enough (base game and one expansion is not substantial enough) to facilitate the need for jump potions, I guarantee there will be less resistance.

Bottom line is that the need for jump potions is caused by dev error, and not by natural content bloat, and that is not an ok reason to add the jump potion.

[Lothian]

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As someone who played WoW quite a lot, and absolutely adored the jump potion (because it lets you avoid 100+ hours of grinding), I can tell you that it made the endgame quite accessible, and in a very healthy way. Each of WoW's expansions are quite stand-alone in their nature; they won't take you ALL OVER Azeroth, they'll take you to the region in which the expansion was centered.

I think FFXIV did a poor job by making even HW content so reliable on ARR content. Not that Eorzea outside of Ishgard, Dravania, etc should just stop existing for HW, but it does make it less accessible when you have to backtrack and do 50 ARR quests to unlock the level 60 dungeon roulette, for example.

I think they could definitely "streamline" it better.

[Campi]

It would be good to have an IG Parser, when SE add the Jump Potion

[Velhart]

Heres the thing though, it's all about context. The jump potions are being proposed as a fix to a problem caused by the MSQ. People are against it, not on principle, but because it is a terrible solution to that problem (because the problem doesn't get fixed and will manifest - see some of the many paragraphs over the last few pages that I have wrote). Right now, if the problem were fixed correctly, there would be no need for a jump potion, as players would be able to get through it at a reasonable pace, or just straight up not have to do it all to access the content (not likely for current content, but a necessity for future content, there are other solutions for current content). When, and only when, the content becomes substantial enough (base game and one expansion is not substantial enough) to facilitate the need for jump potions, I guarantee there will be less resistance.

Bottom line is that the need for jump potions is caused by dev error, and not by natural content bloat, and that is not an ok reason to add the jump potion.

That still does not fix the fact that people no matter how you restructure your content want to jump to end game. In WoW you are not required to do any content to get to the level that starts the latest expansion. They still offer jump potions because they know there is a market for people who want to get to their latest content quick. You are also quick to think that the MSQ alone is the reason they are considering the potion. You need to look at both the developer's perspective of this and the buyer's also. It isn't just black and white issue.

[Lambdafish]

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Would you say that the jump potion was necessary back in WotlK or cataclysm? Or is it simply the content bloat of 5 (now 6) expansions (plus base game) and a huge level that causes problems for WoW?

[Aramina]

Would you say that the jump potion was necessary back in WotlK or cataclysm? Or is it simply the content bloat of 5 (now 6) expansions (plus base game) and a huge level that causes problems for WoW?

Neither. Even with the level cap at 110 you can level 1-110 in a week of playtime (considerably less if you are RAF/have friends helping) and people still buy the character boosts. Even if the FF MSQ was cut in half (or even one quarter) there would *STILL* be a market for the jump potion. There is a section of MMO players that do not want to level period.