DF Tanks and Whm

[Kathryn]

And this thread is a prime example of why I personally won't sign up to DF as a tank and why so many people are against parser's, Who cares who's pulling what if you are getting through the content. I personally think people who modify their clients via any sort should get banned like SE used to.

[Zeonsilt]

And this thread is a prime example of why I personally won't sign up to DF as a tank and why so many people are against parser's, Who cares who's pulling what if you are getting through the content. I personally think people who modify their clients via any sort should get banned like SE used to.

Parsers does not modify your client, they only read memory, afaik. This is not bannable.

[SpookyGhost]

Who cares who's pulling what if you are getting through the content.

Y'know, technically you only need 1 DPS to actually complete any dungeon in the game. I guess next time I queue for DF as DPS I'll just afk, since apparently having more than enough DPS isn't necessary. It'd be weird if I got kicked for that, right?

[Kathryn]

Y'know, technically you only need 1 DPS to actually complete any dungeon in the game. I guess next time I queue for DF as DPS I'll just afk, since apparently having more than enough DPS isn't necessary. It'd be weird if I got kicked for that, right?

Just because not everyone pushes for the same goals you think it's ok to be a complete liability to the team and do nothing.. again this is why MMO communities are going downhill as getting through content is not enough anymore its all about shaving off that few extra seconds so you can stand around afk in (location of choice) and don't use the it's my time being wasted excuse you're playing an mmo for christs sake it's the biggest timesink game you can waste time on.

I've played this game since 2010 and tbh this community is getting more WoW/LoL like every week due to people wanting everyone to play "their" way, I personally only ever get to play the game once or twice a week these days and I could give a damn if I'm pulling your wanted DPS I play for me downtime not for you.

[Zojha]

[...] as getting through content is not enough anymore [...]

Uhm...you yourself just scolded him as "complete liability" for doing the bare minimum needed for "getting through content" one sentence ago >_>

You're contradicting yourself here. Either all that matters is clearing the content, then it doesn't matter how much of a liability people are as long as the content is still getting cleared before the 90 minutes timer run out or it's not all that matters and people should attempt to perform.

There is another contradiction in telling others that the time waste argument isn't a good one in MMOs because they're innately timesink-heavy and at the same time admitting that you only play for yourself in a cooperative multiplayer game, not for others, when that, too, is innate to the genre.

I advise thinking this through for a while.

[Kathryn]

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I couldnt care less I get through the content but if he's going to just afk and be a dick then yes kick him he at least has to contribute, and I don't expect everyone to play at my pace I still do my part but I'm not going to go out of my way to make a game I enjoy a second job stop nitpicking.

[Ilan]

I couldnt care less I get through the content but if he's going to just afk and be a dick then yes kick him he at least has to contribute, and I don't expect everyone to play at my pace I still do my part but I'm not going to go out of my way to make a game I enjoy a second job stop nitpicking.

So what you are basically saying is that you play the way you want and you don't care if you annoy 3 or 7 other people with it if they have to carry you. Thats the typical attitude of people where you complain about. If you play in a party you have to work with your party and not against it...

You say the com is like the com in LoL? I don't know where you play final fantasy or where you play LoL but the com in final fantasy is far away from the LoL com.

[Aramina]

Uhm...you yourself just scolded him as "complete liability" for doing the bare minimum needed for "getting through content" one sentence ago >_>

You're contradicting yourself here. Either all that matters is clearing the content, then it doesn't matter how much of a liability people are as long as the content is still getting cleared before the 90 minutes timer run out or it's not all that matters and people should attempt to perform.

There is another contradiction in telling others that the time waste argument isn't a good one in MMOs because they're innately timesink-heavy and at the same time admitting that you only play for yourself in a cooperative multiplayer game, not for others, when that, too, is innate to the genre.

I advise thinking this through for a while.

Expecting someone to at least try while not expecting them to be the best are not mutually exclusive and thus not contradictory at all.

[Seig345]

Expecting someone to at least try while not expecting them to be the best are not mutually exclusive and thus not contradictory at all.

This. Expecting specific numbers of dps from a tank or healer seems unreasonable. As long as they're trying to throw some dps in whenever they comfortably can without losing control of their primary role, it's fine with me. It's when a healer just sits around when no one needs healing or a tank or dps aren't throwing on a dot or damage buff when it starts to look lazy and I might suggest something in case they're just unaware.