Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[KokonoeAiyoko]

A good player will be a good player despite a potion or not. A bad player is going to be a bad player despite a potion or not.

The ratio of good to bad players is going to be the same rather if some buy the potion.

With all of the moves you will have, just throwing someone into the mix is going to be a lot worse than just bad players existing. People will literally not know what they are doing and that will increase with these. It's not even just about being "good", lacking the experiences of building up through the dungeon content and using your moves and doing them well will be lost if people just merely jump in the game only are using like 5 of their moves.

Also where the hell were these potions during FFXI's prime? I would pay 25 bucks no problem to get a job from 1 to 75. If only MMO developers came up with it 10+ years ago...

I mean, if you don't want to level so much why even play a MMORPG? Do you think leveling should be abolished all together? There really is no point to have levels in this game if you can just jump directly to max.

[Velhart]

With all of the moves you will have, just throwing someone into the mix is going to be a lot worse than just bad players existing. People will literally not know what they are doing and that will increase with these. It's not even just about being "good", lacking the experiences of building up through the dungeon content and using your moves and doing them well will be lost if people just merely jump in the game only are using like 5 of their moves.

That is a person by person basis. There will be people who use the jump potion -and- take the time to learn their abilities and rotations. Fun fact: There are people who get to their 50-60's and don't even know what half of their abilities do.

I mean, if you don't want to level so much why even play a MMORPG? Do you think leveling should be abolished all together? There really is no point to have levels in this game if you can just jump directly to max.

No, I encourage people to not use them and enjoy the content the developers worked hard on. However not everyone is in that mindset. Some people play just to raid. They don't care about the story and world. It is a great shame they think that, but they are going to skip and not care about it rather if you give them a potion or not.

Also did you play FFXI? If they had jump potions back in 2003-2010, SE would of made a huge fortune. All you did in FFXI was a literal grind on mobs that unless you had all the time in the world, took a long while just to get one level. I guarantee SE would of made bank giving jump potions for jobs then. Spend countless hours turning into weeks just to get one job to 75? Yea, here is my 25 dollars.

FFXIV has much better methods of getting from 1 to 60 on a secondary job. Much better than FFXI's in every way. However if you rather spend 25 dollars to jump to lv.50 because you do not want to commit the time to leveling it, then that is fine to me.

Would I personally buy jump potions for FFXIV? Likely not. However I look at multiple people's perspective, not just my own. I think the opinions of people in here against it come of as selfish. Every person who decides to buy that potion has their own story on why they purchased it.

[Delmontyb]

Thinking on this more, please include this with the launch of 4.0 (if not sooner)... but keep the ARR story skip option too... give players to choice to skip ARR, or HW...

I would personally play through HW again on a different character, and skip over ARR...

Thanks for listening.

[XSamsaraLotusX]

wow lost something like 50% of its players around the time this thing was in the game (plus a bad expansion).
in wow lots of people kicked the skippers from end game content.

now i don't know what games but wow did a Jump Potion.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

No, I encourage people to not use them and enjoy the content the developers worked hard on. However not everyone is in that mindset. Some people play just to raid. They don't care about the story and world. It is a great shame they think that, but they are going to skip and not care about it rather if you give them a potion or not.

Also did you play FFXI? If they had jump potions back in 2003-2010, SE would of made a huge fortune. All you did in FFXI was a literal grind on mobs that unless you had all the time in the world, took a long while just to get one level. I guarantee SE would of made bank giving jump potions for jobs then. Spend countless hours turning into weeks just to get one job to 75? Yea, here is my 25 dollars.

FFXIV has much better methods of getting from 1 to 60 on a secondary job. Much better than FFXI's in every way. However if you rather spend 25 dollars to jump to lv.50 because you do not want to commit the time to leveling it, then that is fine to me.

Would I personally buy jump potions for FFXIV? Likely not. However I look at multiple people's perspective, not just my own. I think the opinions of people in here against it come of as selfish. Every person who decides to buy that potion has their own story on why they purchased it.

I actually played FFXI quite a bit, an unhealthy amount of time if I might add. The actual system in place for leveling in FFXI wasn't bad, it was the execution. There wasn't a party finder, or anything to sync you up to get EXP with others, you literally had to shout and find random people in the world and find spots in the wild to train. If you died, you lost EXP and would delevel, if you picked the wrong job, you would not get invites to parties, one time it took me a week just to get in a party at Valkurm Dunes when I was just a fledgling THF. So yes, I remember FFXI and I played it for many years and enjoyed it a lot, but it did have its flaws. I enjoyed how you could level in the open world, if they had a much better EXP curve and had systems like the Party Finder or Duty Finder, FFXI would've been a lot different.

FFXIV is so much easier for leveling by comparison to Pre Abyssea FFXI that it isn't even comparable. You can get to level 50 in no time, and max level with a bit of casual effort. Leveling isn't even a problem in this game. So, you're wanting leveling up potions for a game that was incredibly flawed, but FFXIV's leveling is some of the easiest you'll find in an MMO, it just feels tacky and unnecessary, and I personally detest this kind of bandaid fix when they could just tweak a few things about the quests.

[Zojha]

wow lost something like 50% of its players around the time this thing was in the game (plus a bad expansion).

They lost 2 million subs every expansion since Cataclysm. Pretty sure jump potions had little to do with that.

[Aramina]

They lost 2 million subs every expansion since Cataclysm. Pretty sure jump potions had little to do with that.

In fact, it could be argued that, if anything, they could have potentially lost more because there would be less incoming to mitigate the outgoing.

[Velhart]

They lost 2 million subs every expansion since Cataclysm. Pretty sure jump potions had little to do with that.

Can you prove that?

[AlphaFox]

So I guess I wanna ask, what is it that angers people more. The idea of someone paying just to get to 60 or the idea of someone skipping the story just to unlock the new jobs yet (I believe) still be level 1 in Stormblood area (yet need 30 to unlock the new ones perhaps?) . I ask cus if I were brand new, I think that would be the route I choose myself to just unlock the area that has the job I want. Once the new jobs are released I know some people here may instantly buy a potion and jump there SAM or RDM to 60 instantly (instead of 30 I assume) but myself, Id rather level it normal cus I feel that is how I learn but not everyone is the same,

So is it both aspects of it, the story or the sudden high level?

[Zojha]

Can you prove that?

http://download.gamezone.com/uploads...scriptions.png

Someone made a nice little graph with the reported subscription numbers of WoW - they used to publish them regularly, until they hit 5,6 million and stopped for obvious PR reasons. If you look at the graph, the dots are reports and they've been stretched out as time passed, possibly for similar reasons as why they stopped them entirely later.
This is just one source for the graph by the by, you can find lots of similar graphs over the net if you google "WoW subscription count". WoW never really cared to conceal their subscription numbers until they've plummeted too far.