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  1. #11
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    Celef's Avatar
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    But why not propose those items through the mog kiosk once they aren't redeemable anymore?
    Quote Originally Posted by seraf View Post
    Exclusive items should remain exclusive. I don't see why people feel entitled to everything and if you missed out I'm sorry but that's life.
    See Arutan, did not need to wait too long to get your answer


    And what about thos who wanted to get the item but had to face sold out ? Should they be punished for SE's inability to manage their stock properly ?
    Why does it feel so good to know you (general you, not you you Seraf) have something another person does not have instead of helping him to get it too ? will it ruin the pleasure ?
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    Last edited by Celef; 12-22-2016 at 01:27 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    How about, no - that's absolutely ridiculous.
    How about yes, and here's my justification for this. People complain about exclusive items should remain exclusive, however I believe if the prices are raised through the roof (be glad I only went for 10x the price, I had planned to go a LOT higher), then the exclusivity argument goes out the window because the people who got it on the first room got it for 90% off AND got the physical merchandise associated with it. This means they still got a miles better deal. If you still think that is absolutely ridiculous, tell me why it is, and what else we can do instead to satiate those who believe the items should remain exclusive while also allowing those who couldn't get the item due to it selling out (which apparently HAS happened before) a way to get the item.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seraf View Post
    Exclusive items should remain exclusive. I don't see why people feel entitled to everything and if you missed out I'm sorry but that's life.
    Actually it's a game, also there's nothing special about the fact you happened to be playing the game at a specific point in time, sorry to disappoint you but you're not special for happening to be in the right place at the right time.
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    Last edited by Pintsized; 12-22-2016 at 01:47 AM.

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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraf View Post
    Exclusive items should remain exclusive. I don't see why people feel entitled to everything and if you missed out I'm sorry but that's life.
    V

    Quote Originally Posted by Pintsized View Post
    Actually it's a game, also there's nothing special about the fact you happened to be playing the game at a specific point in time, sorry to disappoint you but you're not special for happening to be in the right place at the right time.
    And also, an exclusive item IRL is exclusive because it's made of precious materials, or contains lots of valuable things like masterpiece crafted items, or both at the same time, which is what a collector edition usually is. They produce it at little quantity because it's either really expensive to make or because they sell it at a loss.
    We're here talking about some data that can be infinitely generated. Where is the exclusivity? The only thing that makes it "exclusive" is because SE said "we are now stoping to generate it!". They don't pay anything else once the item exists, and they only get benefits by selling it, which is the whole point of the mog kiosk.
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    Last edited by Arutan; 12-22-2016 at 02:30 AM.

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    Eulalie Wanzer
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  6. 12-22-2016 03:13 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzer View Post
    To OP :
    I don't know what you mean
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  8. #17
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    You're forgetting one of the biggest reasons the exclusives exist:

    To encourage impulse buys.

    If you offer something - ANYTHING - that, once past a certain point, will never be available again, you're going to get a certain percentage of buyers who, quite frankly, don't care about the item and may not even care about the limited-time extra, but is afraid that if they don't get it they might want it later but won't be able to get it.

    It's a very, very effective tactic, and something that would be completely undermined if SE started providing other ways to get those extras later on. Suddenly these impulse buyers no longer feel the pressure. "If I don't buy it now," they reason, "I'll just need to wait a bit, and it'll come back. I can nab it then, if I still want it." This is not thinking that SE (or any seller, really) wants to encourage.

    When a company provides a product, they want to move as much as possible of that product up front. Creating a product and having it sit around unpurchased in warehouses for who-knows how long is an expense, and they want to do as much as possible to minimize that expense.
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  9. #18
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    And what about thos who wanted to get the item but had to face sold out ? Should they be punished for SE's inability to manage their stock properly ?
    Why does it feel so good to know you (general you, not you you Seraf) have something another person does not have instead of helping him to get it too ? will it ruin the pleasure ?
    Because if they produce too many items for the demand they're left at the other extreme with a ton of useless merchandise no one wants - this was what happened with FFXIV 1.0's Collector's Edition - SE overestimated demand and produced far more CE versions than what was sold, leading to a glut of unsold stock (I remember seeing one 1.0 CE version sitting unloved at my local EB Games for literally 8 months after 1.0's launch with a heavy discount on it), to the point SE later instructed all retailers still with unsold FFXIV 1.0 stock to return them to SE for disposal.

    As unused 1.0 copies's registration codes actually are useable for ARR (in other words, owning 1.0 entitles you to download ARR for free), as are it's item codes (Onion Helm for Collector's Edition, Garlond Goggles for the 'standard' edition, which is actually harder to find ironically.), remaning unopened copies of FFXIV 1.0 (both CE and standard version) are selling for huge amounts on sites like eBay. No doubt SE wants to avoid a repeat of this and so now has ARR merchandise in-game item codes with a default use-by date, specifically to avoid onselling.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 12-23-2016 at 11:57 AM.

  10. #19
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    just...no

    I adore my Bahamut minion to death and I wouldn't want SE to make it easy for people to just "obtain" it via the Mog Store.
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    "Never forget 90k" - August 2013

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    Lokier Ame
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    I think every two years they should recreate active tokens on physical items for a month allowing you to get the in-game codes again.

    Every two years.
    For a month.
    You then get only a week to activate your code.

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  12. 12-23-2016 02:07 PM

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