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  1. #111
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    You always say "I want other races if it's appropriate to the event"

    This is false, what's appropriate is subjective. Any race can celebrate any event, that's a fact not a subjective opinion.
    It's not false. What is 'appropriate' to an event may be partially subjective based on anyone's interpretation of the event, but since we do not make the events, that is the judgement of the developers.

    As for you telling me whether or not I can post to a given topic, or how often, I wasn't aware you were moderating this forum.

    I have at no time expresses any opinion that would come remotely close to wanting Miqo'te only. I was also bothered enough about the topic to spend time looking up each in-game event from ARR on the lodestone and counted the faces I could identify in the images used there. Did I hold back, did I fudge the results, or avoid the relative invisibility of Female Roe and frequent use of female Miqo'te? Nope. I had thought I would add something of substance to the debate by posting that, apparently you didn't read it.

    Mutual respect? Sure, that would be great, you're just not offering it to me. Tell me where I said it was wrong to ask for others to be represented? Tell me where I tried to say 'no' to this 'other side' you are apparently representing?

    You know what's funny, two posters in this topic already admitted they feel prejudiced against female Miqo'te. I feel no prejudice towards any one in Eorzea, but I sure feel it emanating from you.

    Diversity and mutual respect are fine words, let's see if you can walk the walk not just talk the talk.

    As I said before;
    Diversity should never be about slotting alternate races (edit: or gender) into something to be able to fill a specific count or tick a box. Diversity should be about being inclusive. In this case, there is opportunity to explore the traditions of each race of Eorzea through the festivals commonly celebrated. I'd be much, much more interested in these events if they (SE) did that, rather than going down the route of filling a quota.

    It's hard to convey in the dry words of a post in a forum, but, it should not matter what race or gender you are, everyone has their own story to tell and that is what matters. Celebrate those different stories by including them all.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 12-20-2016 at 03:23 AM.

  2. #112
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    It's not partially subjective, it's entirely subjective what's appropriate and what's not.
    We're trying to influence yoshida and his team to change that subjective "appropriateness"

    Your other points are just agreeing with the rest of us, roegadyns should be included in the event art.

    So you're basically trying to twist words into "what's appropriate" and agreeing with us in everything else.
    Your only argument is appropriate, besides appropriate you have no other points.

    Is that worth posting in every single page?

    I already proved to you why "appropriate" is not an excuse, it's subjective and needs to changed. We are here to change it. What are you here for?
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  3. #113
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    Wow! The bias is so clear when all the artwork is seen together. All I can figure is, in Japan, cuteness is very important. Hence, Lalafells and Miqo'te are on all the art.

    Now, as a card carrying liberal lalafell, I feel this is wrong. I feel all the races should be included in the art. Not necessarily all of them on the same piece!

    Give our lalafell and miqo'te models a break once in awhile, Square Enix!
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  5. #114
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    The only art I can appreciate is the 2017 calendar, full of roegadyn



    Even female miqo'te become secondary
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  6. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    The only art I can appreciate is the 2017 calendar, full of roegadyn



    Even female miqo'te become secondary
    Is this official SE art? I've never seen this :0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Is this official SE art? I've never seen this :0
    This is 2017 calendar from fanfest
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  8. #117
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    This is 2017 calendar from fanfest
    That's nice! Why can't they do more of that xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    The only art I can appreciate is the 2017 calendar, full of roegadyn



    Even female miqo'te become secondary
    That looks like all Lominsan characters, home of the Roes. Got lucky that Storm Kitty didn't just photobomb it in the front. I believe she's the one that stands in the back right corner of the Maelstrom HQ that gives you dungeons to do for promotions and plays Triple Triad.
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  10. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    The only art I can appreciate is the 2017 calendar, full of roegadyn



    Even female miqo'te become secondary
    Sweet mother of god. Merlwyb can scissor me timbers any day of the week.
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    Sex sells. Especially when it comes in an innocently cute package. It would be surprising to expect them to stray away from female exploitation. There's more examples to be found in manga and anime than you can fap to in your lifetime. Regardless the artist, the art direction's hardly going to change past occasionally throwing the less sexualized and inherently cute races (or genders) a bone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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