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  1. #611
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    Vejjiegirl's Avatar
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    Raelynn Lovelace
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I just wanted to add, the minute this rolls out it will probably spell the end for The Feast Ranked.
    A lot of people level alts when they reach the top 100, I have a friend who managed to successfully get in the top 100 (top 10) with two alts.
    This season with 3. (I think other servers are also having problems with alts)

    The only real thing keeping them from leveling alts and filling the top 100 with them is the time it takes to level alts(about 2 weeks)


    Job/leveling/story pots will cut out the middle man, and all they will need to worry about is simply getting gear that will be 150+ for the feast (which will probably be provided with the deals since China and Korea versions have gear that comes preloaded with the Leveling books/pots)

    And since they made it crazy easy to rank up in the feast now (you lose hardly anything now with losses) a player that is used to pvp and has decent skill will be able to just make a few alts, and then rank up sit on their rank with one alt and swap to the other, rank up and just rotate like that, with 3-4 maybe even 5 different alts depending on how high they get on them (I think Aether has someone with 4 alts in the top 100 correct me if i'm wrong)

    so ya this will probably spell the end of ranked 4 v 4 unless they make prizes account based.
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  2. #612
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    rainichan's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Caelia Silverarch
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    snip.
    We can't pay SE to automatically get 3 lines in our WT books to get the highest selling crafted-but-higher-tier-non-crafted gear (Ornate gear) every week. THAT would be p2w. Extra retainers for space because people craft or have a lot of gear for glamours who sell stuff they get back from ventures/whatever is crafted is not. More retainers does not auto-equal more gil/elemental shards/crystals/clusters/whatever. People choose whether or not they want more retainer space, or if they can trim everything down for your free retainers + armoire to hold (I envy those people.) It is NOT NECESSARY in the game, which is the definition of p2w. FFXIV is not forcing players to pay for a level jump to catch up, nor are they forcing players to buy more retainer space. Once the expanded inventory comes in 4.0, I'll probably deactivate a couple of my own retainers that I pay for. A level jump potion is not a hardline "it's going to be impossible for you to catch up because we went back to the original XP cost for all the quests so you get less for playing through 2.0, just buy our stuff and instajump to the max level!" like actual p2w games do to their players. It is an optional, not forced item, the direct opposite of p2w.
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  3. #613
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    JafoZero's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Valenia Rah'zo
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quick 2 gil ignoring the previous 60 pages of comments cause I'm not replying to the replies.

    I don't have any belief these potions are going to negatively impact the game on large scale.

    A Training Hall of some fashion would be a great boost to go along with the level skip potion though. Some instruction is better than none.

    Otherwise, Go nuts. I don't particularly need either potion. If people won't sub without the potions then they weren't gonna sub. If people are actually gonna quit because of the potions, they were probably quitting regardless.
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  4. #614
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    XersesD's Avatar
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    Xerses Delch
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    I like the idea of the jump potions if they are implemented properly. By adding a tutorial for each job, new players can learn the essentials needed to clear a dungeon. They are all pretty easy anyways.

    I have tried to get friends to join FFXIV in the past, but they always get burned out before reaching max level. As we all know, the game starts off very slow and starts to pick up at Heavensward. I would tell them, "just wait until max level it picks up". However, it takes a significant amount of time to progress to max level and many will quit long before reaching it.

    I love the game, and I want more people to be able to experience it.
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  5. #615
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    Korla's Avatar
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    Kor La
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    i have no problem with the story potion, it dosent affect me so i dont give a dam

    and i do have two minor issues with the job potion

    1.) remove the gil item from it

    a sudden large influx of gil from these could have wild effects on the economy of servers. legacy servers would probably cope well cause they have a shit ton floating around as is from 1.0 characters, but other servers might not be so lucky

    2.) limit them to one potion per character

    if you want to catch up and play with friends, then thats cool, take this potion, do the current expantions content and youll be raiding with them in no time!

    but if you want to level another class/job on that character, im sorry but im going to have to ask you to please do all this other content

    it dosent seem fair to me that someone with a few hundred (if not thousand) dollars can just buy a full roster of level 50 (or 60) characters from the prior expantion. there are already so many EXP buffs, from the brand new ring, food, FC buffs (and if your FC isent running the heat of battle to help out new players theres something wrong) to the friendship circlet if you were invited to the game, that getting to level 50 is a joke

    it would also look good for SE as limiting them limits the profits they can make, so it would be a PR boost and silence those who say "its all just a cash grab"

    just my 2 gil

    edit for char limit
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  6. #616
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Finally! Someone who sees it how it is .

    It isn't about the best deal for the users, its about squeezing as much out as possible.
    If causing excruciating pain to users increased profits you could guarantee Yoshi would be on stage talking about how excruciating pain for all users would enable them to release more content per patch.

    We are just sacks full of money waiting to be plundered in SE's eyes.
    Business is business, maximising profits, it's a nasty dog eat dog world. But it doesn't mean all the employees are malevolent. FF XIV is a special game because Yoshida and the team really care about the fans and care about their craft. They love to delight us and meet us at events. If he feels he let us down he is extremely apologetic and they work their asses off to provide the best product they can, costing themselves some sanity with many consecutive weeks of overtime for the Heavensward release.
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  7. #617
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    Oldie-P's Avatar
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    Oldie Favez
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I couldn't argue is the game still fun for the players without leveling or learning their own job, but I can imagine DF will be getting worse because of the new players who would like to skip everything.
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  8. #618
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    Austherus's Avatar
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    Austherus Aynvals
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    If he feels he let us down he is extremely apologetic and they work their asses off to provide the best product they can, costing themselves some sanity with many consecutive weeks of overtime for the Heavensward release.
    They work their asses off because it's their job.
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  9. #619
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    SiriusCrescent's Avatar
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    Sirius Crescent
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Austherus View Post
    They work their asses off because it's their job.
    This completely offtopic, but lol are you naive.

    I've seen plenty of games before where the developers leave the game to literally rot away while they take all them money they can get - at least in that regard FF XIV is far above the rest.
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  10. #620
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    Ronivan's Avatar
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    Roni Beoulve
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyraele View Post
    How can you consider this to be appropriate? It seems like that's not in keeping with the wall of text I am told S-E gives you when you agree to be a mentor... ...Today, we use the word mentor for anyone who is a positive, guiding influence in another (usually younger) person's life.". "Mentors" that feel that way should ponder why they are mentors. Because the attitude on display is an affront and an embarrassment.
    Yeah you are right, just fixed the situation, I'm not mentor anymore. The only bad thing it will do for me is for business actually, since I don't really care for battle stuff anyway. Thankfully people have short memory, I'll make some extra cheap products and everything will be fine. The only reason I was made mentor was by crafting, not helped any people anyway. I don't meant to leave the game, since I own house and multiple airships, but I'll keep an keen eye on whats is to come. I'll be the ghost of Christmas past.
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    Last edited by Ronivan; 12-18-2016 at 11:22 AM.

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