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  1. #461
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    Moneta's Avatar
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    Moneta'he Kujar
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    Moogle
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    At first, I didn't know how to feel about this, I felt cheated that new players will be able to simply skip all of the content that *I* had to go through fair and square. It already made me half angry when very incompetent players are clearing ex primals and coils like it's nothing because lolol unsync.
    But in the end, these things are necessary, unsync for new players to experience old content, because learning old content the hard way might be impossible with everyone running the current stuff.

    And same goes for these jump potions, it might feel like there's not that much story content to go through, but it piles up and for someone casually playing few hours each week, it will take months to get up to the most recent content, that's further elevated with the next expansion. I recently see it with my friend, I bought him the game, it's his second month playing and he's on level 46 ATM, still 2.x and 3.x to do before he'll be able to join in to the recent stuff with me. Now he doesn't mind at all, he enjoys the experience but for most people this will be a deal breaker (got 2 other friends in game, one quit after level 30 the other after 40)


    Jump potions will help people get started and it will give them a reason to stay around instead of leaving out of frustration because "there's so much to do before I can play with my friend that are already in end-game". So yeah, I came to the conclusion that this can only help the game, for those willing to pay up to catch up and can't see themselves going through the whole thing... You'll either have people play or have them leave somewhere because they can't be bothered to do it all.
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    Hail Satin, the Lord of all Fabrics.

  2. #462
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    greatestfoe's Avatar
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    Foe Foe
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Daemius View Post
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3380005/

    Where's your melds though dude? Alexandrian gear? Looks like you have some work to do.

    he melds tome gear XD


    i learned that lesson with the i230 to i240 gear. also whm isn't my main, sch is... i have an i260 relic for it. and an i260 relic for pd. and elleven more relics at i230or above stage. and all zetas.. oh and my crafters/gatherers can craft/gather anything, i'm worth hundreds of millions of gil, have a growing fc complete with mansion and maxed airships, and have undoubtedly spent more time in eorzea than you have too :c
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    Last edited by greatestfoe; 12-18-2016 at 02:43 AM.

  3. #463
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    Fuyuzora's Avatar
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    Alice Fuyuko
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    they better lower the kick player cooldown now, im not willing to play with people that bought their levels and dont know how to play at all.
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  4. #464
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuyuzora View Post
    they better lower the kick player cooldown now, im not willing to play with people that bought their levels and dont know how to play at all.
    You act like as if you'd be able to tell who bought a potion and who is just plain giftedly bad regardless of the potion.
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  5. #465
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    You act like as if you'd be able to tell who bought a potion and who is just plain giftedly bad regardless of the potion.
    Exactly this, we have people who struggle to out DPS the tanks as it is now, but for all you know you may meet someone a week after who is amazing and find they used the potion. Besides they would still have to work (or pay more) cus they would only get 1 job to 60, the rest will still remain at 1 except for the needed subjob.
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  6. #466
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    Fuyuzora's Avatar
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    Alice Fuyuko
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    if a level 50/60 player doesnt know how to play/use their skills than it's clearly bought unless they are missing brain.exe - cant help with that o.o
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  7. #467
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    Remus's Avatar
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuyuzora View Post
    if a level 50/60 player doesnt know how to play/use their skills than it's clearly bought unless they are missing brain.exe - cant help with that o.o
    Current players already do that so that statement makes no sense.
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  8. #468
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    Alice Fuyuko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Current players already do that so that statement makes no sense.
    i kick people like that in lvl 60 dungeons, nothing wrong with learning the game but at lvl 60? not wasting my time with that.
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  9. #469
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    Rikku1987's Avatar
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    Miqo Te
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuyuzora View Post
    if a level 50/60 player doesnt know how to play/use their skills than it's clearly bought unless they are missing brain.exe - cant help with that o.o
    Do you even play this game? If you do i guess you kick/try to kick alot.
    Like 4 of 5 players cant handle there class "properly", with or without potions, it doesn't change anything.
    But it doesn't even matter due to content difficulty.
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  10. #470
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    Ast Eryut
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Yoshida...

    Community...
    Please think about the community and how vote kick will be used. Haven't you seen mmos that vote kick you for any little thing? What makes FFXIV the best mmorpg is that the community and the duty finder accepts everyone. The moment you add jump potions you're going to poison the community. Don't be surprised if everyone's vote kicking everyone they start suspecting of being "potion" player.

    This is poison........there's no other way to put it and I really hope you remember what actually makes FFXIV better than most mmos and it's really the community and the duty finder.

    Real friends
    Real friends go back to help their friends through the story, real friends don't rush them to level 60 where everything will kill them or where they're going to be judged (yes they're going to be judged).

    Maybe in Japan it works but I don't think in america/europe you're going to have everyone be ok with people that just pay to be appreciate and learn.


    We never had thread asking for jump potions

    Maybe this happened a lot in Japan but it didn't happen here...think about why it didn't happen here


    Solution
    Please Yoshida don't add poison to FFXIV..I know the company wants more money but when the community is ruined there's no coming back. if you want people to get through ARR and HW faster give every dungeon/quests more exp so that they don't quit because they can't reach stormblood.
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