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  1. #121
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    Nic Pay
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    all this is gona do is make all content below storm blood irrelevant , but mmos have to make money so I get it , its just gona be a wasteland for players that acutally wana go through the story , esp if they want to do any type of harder content, they might as well take extreme primals and the old raids out the game because nobody is going to def do them then. But maybe if they didnt gate so much content they wouldnt need a jump potion but maybe thats just me
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  2. #122
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    Lynne Asteria
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    I don't really care either way. I run into bad players all the time. Alex normal is plagued with people who can't play their jobs correctly.

    And I'm one of those people who leveled all their classes to 60 legitimately. WHO CARES IF PEOPLE BUY A SKIP POTION! Anyone who bought the game after 3.0 launched already benefited from similar effects, an extra 50% armory bonus up to lvl 50, more xp on story quests, base game was cheaper. cheaper gear. If you are one of those people and you are complaining, you have no right to complain about this, as they game was already made easier for you to begin with.

    If I had a dollar for every "I quit" or "p2w" or "game is going f2p" post on these forums, I could retire.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 12-17-2016 at 12:00 PM.

  3. #123
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisannaTargaryen View Post
    And again by not fixing the leveling expirience what is gonna happen is that skip potion is gonna be mandatory if you want 2 reach endgame without spending extra cash. That's a huge negative in my books. And because we are not WoW and you cant just LFR to level up and access endgame people who are not willing to spend the money in 1-2 years will just never play the game. The real solution is to streamline and fix the leveling experience making all cut scenes skippable but still force a progression via the MSQ.
    How is it suddenly going to make it more mandatory than right now? Its not like they are planning to make the MSQ harder to do. They actually said they plan to tweek things to make it easier, at least with HW.
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  4. #124
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    Miko'to Khagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    all this is gona do is make all content below storm blood irrelevant , but mmos have to make money so I get it , its just gona be a wasteland for players that acutally wana go through the story , esp if they want to do any type of harder content, they might as well take extreme primals and the old raids out the game because nobody is going to def do them then. But maybe if they didnt gate so much content they wouldnt need a jump potion but maybe thats just me
    Considering the people who do actually level their characters, as well as want to take advantage of newbie bonuses for multitudes of reasons, I don't see earlier content dying like you're implying. Also consider: With cross world PFs, there's more people available to set things up together.
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  5. #125
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    We all know the real reason they want to do this. More money. Don't make excuses like it's to help people's friends catch up. If that was true then why not make them a free reward from the friend recruitment system?

    Instead of jump potions why not make more interesting ways to level up with low level players, like palace of the dead? And instead of making your expansions an continuous story that people just want to skip with story potions, why not make them stand alone stories like ffxi did with treasures of aht urgan, wings of the goddess and seekers of adoulin? Since they realised this kind of thing becomes a problem after chains of promathia and rise of the zilart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    We all know the real reason they want to do this. More money. Don't make excuses like it's to help people's friends catch up. If that was true then why not make them a free reward from the friend recruitment system?

    Instead of jump potions why not make more interesting ways to level up with low level players, like palace of the dead? And instead of making your expansions an continuous story that people just want to skip with story potions, why not make them stand alone stories like ffxi did with treasures of aht urgan, wings of the goddess and seekers of adoulin? Since they realised this kind of thing becomes a problem after chains of promathia and rise of the zilart.
    I am against this because one of the things I like best about FF14 is that it does have an ongoing, interconnected and continuous world and story. Changing that would negatively effect my experience and enjoyment of the game more than any newly autolvled bad player.
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  7. #127
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    Certainly against.

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    Full reply here (text limits): http://pasted.co/4cb97023
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  8. #128
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    Since we already have the "new adventurer" status this doesn't sound too bad. They could just adjust the criteria for the sprout icon so that we can identify jump users easily so that we can help them get adjusted to the game.
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  9. #129
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    Imoen Orunitia
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    I'll just leave this here, I didn't actually see this topic when I first posted on this. It is a link to another thread that I put my thoughts in.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Potions/page19

    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    I'm personally out of the game with this announcement. It is the exact reason I am canceling my account as of... about 5 min ago.

    It isn't that I think it would necessarily effect me in any way etc... etc... It's just that this type of business model with both P2P and non cosmetic micro transactions (Edit since people are so hung up definitions of slang.... of "p2w") with is a deal breaker for me and seems purely greed based, despite what rhetoric people would imply.

    In my personal opinion, you can't have it both ways. Either I'm free to log in with no cost, no restrictions, and grind my ass off to the top, with the option of "buying" my way through... OR I'm paying per month to support the team , future development, with peace of mind that my monthly payment was worth something. Ya, I know there is holes in the logic, but both as a developer and as a gamer, I can not stay rallied to this cause.

    There is no way in hell I'm dealing with both monthly cost plus level/story skipping being implemented AND stone gain restrictions at the same time. There are multiple ways to handle players falling behind... this is a poor and uninspired way to do that.

    Before anyone asks either, no, you can't have my stuff... I'm simply voicing my thoughts on this. Anyone that doesn't agree is fully free to do so and I'm not going to flap my hands about trying to get other people to agree with me. JFYI

    I might, I might come back with some more in depth thoughts... etc... etc.. but that's it.

    Edit: didn't mean to derail your topic. Just "rawr"
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    Last edited by Imoen; 12-21-2016 at 02:46 PM. Reason: Adding post to main thread.
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  10. #130
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    I am against it. Even though they will still implement it before stormblood
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