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  1. #61
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Honestly sounds fine to me, according to google translate, roughly $64 for both the story and 1 max level character. We can't use the long tried expression of "They will suck if they never play" when we all have run into players who suck now after playing for 3 years. If it helps bring in new players then I am all for it, however I still feel the new jobs should not be locked to the area but just me.
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  2. #62
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    Nikkita's Avatar
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    Nyori Mahnae
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 80
    I have to put my 2 cents on the side of implementing these. At the very least the Story Jump-Potion. (and I am an avid fan of Story in games) I've known some people that started out the game and were quite excited to play and were moving along leveling no problem. But it was the Story they found daunting. You can reach 50 well before the end of 2.55 and only if you have the Heavensward expansion can you continue leveling to 60. So they buy Heavensward and keep at it but again find themselves put out by how much Story they had to go through before they could even enter Ishgard and try new jobs.

    The Story Jump IMO should definitely be a thing. The leveling potion however is the bigger culprit in people knowing EVEN LESS about their jobs and how they function. I agree that bads will be bads but when you just throw everything involved in a job at lvl 60 that potential increases. IMO it also seems to go against the idea SE wants things to be "Not complicated" at the start so people can learn. This would do nothing but hinder that concept. (so Hey! that means we can start mixing it up now right? more new and interesting stats maybe? if you're going to throw it all in at once go big or go home!) I think their should be some extra criteria involved when using a Job Jump Potion. Heck even without the potion there really needs to be something that gets these people to understand what they need to be doing on w/e job it is their playing. Something more complicated than Hall of the Novice
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  3. #63
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    LisannaTargaryen's Avatar
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    Athamas Decruor
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    Excalibur
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    Botanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    This doesn't incentivize players who may have separate accounts (you know they exist- quite a few made accounts for recruit-a-friend rewards), kept them and now have ALTs on them.
    So they pay 2x or 3x the normal sub? Sorry only who has no financial sense would do that.


    Also not a legitimate use of RAF imho.
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  4. #64
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    RhaegarFFXIFenrir's Avatar
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    Asagiri Shirogane
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 80
    You want feedback. I don't see this as a complicated issue. SE is, first and foremost, a business. If FFXIV isn't profitable for the company, there won't be a FFXIV. I enjoy playing FFXIV, and thus would like to see it stick around for a nice long run like FFXI had. If this is what it takes to help ensure a long lasting MMORPG and a healthy bottom line for SE, I'm all for it.
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  5. #65
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    ~snip~
    I might be needlessly nitpicking, but they are classes. Jobs are paladin, monk, warrior, dragoon, bard, ninja, white mage, black mage, scholar, summoner, dark knight, astrologian, and machinist currently. As well as up to three specialist classes for crafters. I don't recall seeing posts about them appearing in the Chinese version; only story and battle classes.

    It would be nice to have a clarification if crafters and gatherers would be included.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  6. #66
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    PraiseSultana's Avatar
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    Felto Magulto
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    Phoenix
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    Leatherworker Lv 60
    I'm fine with all this except marking all dungeons as clear. People clearing dungeons for the first time keeps content alive & adds variety to roulettes.

    Also, if the dungeons are marked as clear, does that mean no noob bonus from any of those duties? Having someone with no bonus, no dungeon experience & no job experience sounds like a bad combination.
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  7. #67
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LisannaTargaryen View Post
    So they pay 2x or 3x the normal sub? Sorry only who has no financial sense would do that.


    Also not a legitimate use of RAF imho.
    To each his own; I have no financial sense and haven't for four years.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  8. #68
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LisannaTargaryen View Post
    The community does not need those players. You hear players complaining about people not being capable to even clear A9S but those people the jump potion will bring will by no means prepare them to revitalize the raiding scene.
    For everyone expressing this sentiment or willfully hoping to shame people who skip cut scenes. Would you express that same disdain of Mizzteq? She's admitted to skipping everything out of a preference to reach endgame fast. I don't think anyone would even attempt to make an argument she doesn't give a lot back to the community. Topping it off, she's savage raider. So perhaps you shouldn't assume everyone with fleeting interest in the story or preference for gameplay are lazy, awful players who will make Duty Finder unbearable. Some may be terrible players. Others may be clearing Savage faster than you. How about not projecting your preferences onto other players. If you want to complain about it being a cash grab, by all means. There are plenty of decent arguments to be made against a jump potion despite my own disagreement with them. Saying everyone will suck, just isn't one of them.
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  9. #69
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    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LisannaTargaryen View Post
    So they pay 2x or 3x the normal sub? Sorry only who has no financial sense would do that.
    Guilty! Originally my 2nd account was originally started to create a character to marry, but since then have started levelling her when I get bored. She also runs a completely different free company and I admit to even having played dress-up with glamours for her and bought some of the mogstation outfits too from time to time.

    Logistics wise it's also incredibly useful to trade items between main account when I can log both on at once, and if it's solable content I can just create a party with the two of them and steam role it with my main account while the other is idle (although have to move every now and then or gets booted!).

    It is more of a monthly cost, but from the amount of hours of use I get from it, I consider it relatively inexpensive. I do actually have 3rd and 4th accounts too, but most of the time they're not subbed. I only activate them when I know I have a lot of FC workshop crafting to do so I can supply my own 4 people for that annoying requirement instead of having to hassle others.
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  10. #70
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    PeekayTom's Avatar
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    Miko'to Khagami
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    There's no actual problem with this. For people complaining about players who don't know how to do their job, try being a supportive community member and guide your fellow player. You're not going to be end-game raiding with them, you'll be running dungeons with them that right now take 10-15 minutes. Any of you mentors out there especially should take this as an opportunity to help your fellow player. More players = FFXIV is more alive = more money for them = better content for all. Think of the game as a whole and not just yourself.
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