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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    . . .the mark of a competent tank/healer/dps is to utilise all of the tools at their disposal. . .
    That's a poor counter.
    1) DPS's job is to pump out as much damage as they can first and foremost. Knowing how to AoE is part of their job to deal damage. If the fights are slow, then it is because the DPS aren't good, not because the healer wasn't pulling half of what one of them can possibly do. Wanna watch a summoner fail to attack more than one enemy at a time when they can easily do it? Healer's job first and foremost is to keep players alive; melting everything with holy doesn't change that. Making an argument against it is like saying, "no, healer should DPS 100% of the time" then WHY are you a healer!?

    2) The types who love to use THIS argument. You argue that to be competent you gotta use ALL the tools, but will push for more damage. Tanks got additional means to sustain themselves and damage abilities for when they are OT, but "nobody" likes it when the Paladin takes the time to sustain themselves by making active use of both clemency and stoneskin, because that gets in the way of more damage, and boy I bet shield bash is nowhere near the top of your list of attacks. Healers have better things to do if healing is not required, either mitigate the damage the party/tank takes or take advantage of cleric stance, which was added just to make solo content NOT a complete slog, however I bet you will praise them for being pretend DPS even if they straight up don't do the DPS or healing part right and shun them if they instead opt to mitigate damage with their barriers. In the end, there is no gotta use all the tools to be good, it's just gotta deal damage to be good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    Uh, it's true that 0 DPS healers are leeches. On Reddit there was a post by a Scholar who literally did nothing but /follow while her fairy healed the entire Sastasha run. There is literally no term that describes that type of player more accurately than "leech".

    They will always be votekicked from my parties, nobody gets a free ride off my efforts.
    And you don't have anymore information about that SCH in question? That she was new or was in raid gear, anything? Did the person even confront her or did they just went with it, pulled little and THEN complained? Being a leech means we could have done this without you, you are literally dragging us down even if we are winning AND that you intentionally did nothing, knowing that you could have done something. But frankly healing is extremely easy, and using Sastasha of all things is weak. Summoning carry fairy in an extremely easy place and following idling by isn't exactly enough to label someone as a leech, lazy for sure, but not something this extreme.

    Here's a better example: Aery, tanks in STR gear and uses no CDs and flashes only twice, then Alt-tabs to watch Youtube in every pull not attacking a thing. He loses threat and before the first boss I confront him, and the idiot just spills the beans, DEMANDED I do my job as a healer while he gets to sit there and maintain zero aggro. I let him die twice and healed only the DPS who did his job better than he did before we finally kicked him. THAT is a leech, without a doubt.
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    Last edited by RiisWolf; 12-13-2016 at 01:24 AM.

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