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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Oh, please.. I've seen people in full i270, 3rd week post-patch. It is perfectly possible.
    That is i270, too. Not i260 as limited in current tomestone grinding.
    Compare even 1 i270 item per week, with a net average of 0.89 i260 pieces per week, if it's still so unclear.
    Seems like you don't even have an idea how loot system in Savage works.

    But by all means, keep pretending you do. I think I'm done here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    Seems like you don't even have an idea how loot system in Savage works.
    I have done it in A1S to get a piece. I trust it is the same.
    Thank you for your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    I have done it in A1S to get a piece. I trust it is the same.
    You have no idea what you're talking about. You don't "choose" what you get to drop unless you've done 4-8 weeks of clears thanks to the manifestos. Anything else is just dumb luck.
    Even with twines and coats from raids, you need 8 weeks of clears to give one to each in your group from drops alone, most a full patch cycle. It's not as if upgrades are handed out to raiders like candy.

    The suggestion by the dev team is basically "You don't need 270 gear to clear non-raid content, so if you do want it, try out some raids. If you still don't want to raid, gear up alt jobs while waiting for the next content patch"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    You have no idea what you're talking about. You don't "choose" what you get to drop unless you've done 4-8 weeks of clears thanks to the manifestos. Anything else is just dumb luck.
    Even with twines and coats from raids, you need 8 weeks of clears to give one to each in your group from drops alone, most a full patch cycle. It's not as if upgrades are handed out to raiders like candy.
    You can choose, as long as you try with different groups. That's exactly what I did to get my earrings in A1s.
    And it is precisely having equipment handed out like candy.. see my simplified comparison above: 1 i270 piece per week vs 0.89 of an i260 piece per week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    The suggestion by the dev team is basically "You don't need 270 gear to clear non-raid content, so if you do want it, try out some raids."
    Yet again, 4th time I see the same flawed argument "you only need i270 for creator savage".
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    Amelia Wafflesmack
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    You can choose, as long as you try with different groups. That's exactly what I did to get my earrings in A1s.
    And it is precisely having equipment handed out like candy.. see my simplified comparison above: 1 i270 piece per week vs 0.89 of an i260 piece per week.
    Uhm... i don't know what you talk about, but i can only roll on items at the 1st weekly kill. o.O After that my ID is set and i can't roll on ANYTHING, doesn't matter how often i go in there and kill Alex Savage or if i got an Item on 1st kill or not.
    Maybe there is something i am doing wrong about it? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Uhm... i don't know what you talk about, but i can only roll on items at the 1st weekly kill. o.O After that my ID is set and i can't roll on ANYTHING, doesn't matter how often i go in there and kill Alex Savage or if i got an Item on 1st kill or not.
    Maybe there is something i am doing wrong about it? :P
    Try to confirm beforehand how many members have cleared it already for the week -the fewer the better, iirc.
    I also remember making sure the party leader had not progressed any further for the week -this might be another issue altogether, though.
    No idea what rules apply for the raid finder, if you're using that.
    Hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Try to confirm beforehand how many members have cleared it already for the week -the fewer the better, iirc.
    I also remember making sure the party leader had not progressed any further for the week -this might be another issue altogether, though.
    No idea what rules apply for the raid finder, if you're using that.
    Hope this helps
    Actually not because it seems you don't understand how loot works in savage...

    Just see:
    I go in there with a premade party of 8 people, none has the weekly kill so far, so we get 2 chests, each containing 1 item = 2 items, random, probably not for my class, because i know how "lucky" i am.
    Fine. No loot for me for this week, because with the kill, my ID got set and even if i go in there again with another group of 7 people without weekly kill, I can't roll on ANYTHING. (Not mentioning there will be just 1 chest by that time, because my ID was already set).

    So how should i be able to gear up faster than a player grinding, when i have to rely on RNG when it comes to the pieces I need, or i have to wait at least 4 weeks of weekly kills to buy just one of the weakest items with the books i got from weekly kill? o.O
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