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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    Except you aren't guaranteed to get 4 pieces/week even through the raid.
    If you optimize your runs with your raiding community/statics, you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    Like I said, to keep people who think item level is end all reason to their satisfaction in their mmo experience satisfied.
    And for some reason this is only "justified" for savage raiders?

    [edit: missed a point]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    If you optimize your runs with your raiding community/statics, you are.


    And for some reason this is only "justified" for savage raiders?

    [edit: missed a point]
    >If you optimize your runs with your raiding community/statics, you are.
    Clearly you have no idea what you're spouting anymore.

    >And for some reason this is only "justified" for savage raiders?
    Of course not, which is why we get higher item level with every patches.
    Which is why upgrade tokens from 24 man raid exists.
    Which is why max ilvl relic exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    >If you optimize your runs with your raiding community/statics, you are.
    Clearly you have no idea what you're spouting anymore.
    Oh, please.. I've seen people in full i270, 3rd week post-patch. It is perfectly possible.
    That is i270, too. Not i260 as limited in current tomestone grinding.
    Compare even 1 i270 item per week, with a net average of 0.89 i260 pieces per week, if it's still so unclear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Oh, please.. I've seen people in full i270, 3rd week post-patch. It is perfectly possible.
    That is i270, too. Not i260 as limited in current tomestone grinding.
    Compare even 1 i270 item per week, with a net average of 0.89 i260 pieces per week, if it's still so unclear.
    Seems like you don't even have an idea how loot system in Savage works.

    But by all means, keep pretending you do. I think I'm done here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    Seems like you don't even have an idea how loot system in Savage works.
    I have done it in A1S to get a piece. I trust it is the same.
    Thank you for your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    I have done it in A1S to get a piece. I trust it is the same.
    You have no idea what you're talking about. You don't "choose" what you get to drop unless you've done 4-8 weeks of clears thanks to the manifestos. Anything else is just dumb luck.
    Even with twines and coats from raids, you need 8 weeks of clears to give one to each in your group from drops alone, most a full patch cycle. It's not as if upgrades are handed out to raiders like candy.

    The suggestion by the dev team is basically "You don't need 270 gear to clear non-raid content, so if you do want it, try out some raids. If you still don't want to raid, gear up alt jobs while waiting for the next content patch"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    You have no idea what you're talking about. You don't "choose" what you get to drop unless you've done 4-8 weeks of clears thanks to the manifestos. Anything else is just dumb luck.
    Even with twines and coats from raids, you need 8 weeks of clears to give one to each in your group from drops alone, most a full patch cycle. It's not as if upgrades are handed out to raiders like candy.
    You can choose, as long as you try with different groups. That's exactly what I did to get my earrings in A1s.
    And it is precisely having equipment handed out like candy.. see my simplified comparison above: 1 i270 piece per week vs 0.89 of an i260 piece per week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    The suggestion by the dev team is basically "You don't need 270 gear to clear non-raid content, so if you do want it, try out some raids."
    Yet again, 4th time I see the same flawed argument "you only need i270 for creator savage".
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    >And for some reason this is only "justified" for savage raiders?
    Of course not, which is why we get higher item level with every patches.
    What does that have to do with which players get it? In one patch, raiders get better items than grinders, and in the next patch, raiders still get better items than grinders.


    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    Which is why max ilvl relic exists.
    Does max ilvl relic finally exist? I thought relics only went up to iLevel 260, while raid weapons went up to 275.
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