Most popular tank at endgame

[Deathgiver]

On a side note, I continue to be baffled by the number of people that say that war is harder to master than drk. Offensive skill usage only (includes defensive buffs that grant stacks on war) drk is more than 5 skills per minute more than war, and if you include defensive skills the gap widens to almost 7 without even counting low blow procs, reprisal procs or sole survivor. They both have a secondary resource that has to be balanced between offense and defense, and war doesn't have any proc skills that have to be monitored.

[Lambdafish]

On a side note, I continue to be baffled by the number of people that say that war is harder to master than drk.

WAR isn't even that hard to play, that attitude comes from when the only thing to compare it to was PLD. WAR was always the "harder tank to play" but when DRK came along and developed a new standard, the focus shifted to PLD being the "basic tank to play".

[SpookyGhost]

WAR isn't even that hard to play, that attitude comes from when the only thing to compare it to was PLD.

Nah, that attitude comes from when Defiance actually existed and the raids were actually in any way difficult. Now everything's faceroll so every tank is a DPS that sometimes presses their defensive CDs, leading to DRK being "harder" because it has more buttons to press. In reality, atm, all the tanks are roughly the same difficulty aka not difficult at all.

[Ilan]

Nah, that attitude comes from when Defiance actually existed and the raids were actually in any way difficult. Now everything's faceroll so every tank is a DPS that sometimes presses their defensive CDs, leading to DRK being "harder" because it has more buttons to press. In reality, atm, all the tanks are roughly the same difficulty aka not difficult at all.

Then try to pull out high dps in savage raids and you'll see that the difficulty of a drk is the highest...

[SpookyGhost]

Then try to pull out high dps in savage raids and you'll see that the difficulty of a drk is the highest...

wat

It's hard to press oGCDs on CD? You're tanking out of Grit which means you have BW and BP so mana isn't an issue. Where exactly is the difficulty?

e: Oh, wait, the highest. Yeah, agreed, it is ever so slightly harder since there's more buttons to press. In the current meta it's 100% just doing your DPS rotation so when one of the tanks has more DPS buttons than the others, it does require like a really really small amount of extra thought to play. But, in the grand scheme of things, I'd say that they're all relatively the same which is to say they're all braindead easy.

[Ilan]

wat

It's hard to press oGCDs on CD? You're tanking out of Grit which means you have BW and BP so mana isn't an issue. Where exactly is the difficulty?

e: Oh, wait, the highest. Yeah, agreed, it is ever so slightly harder since there's more buttons to press. In the current meta it's 100% just doing your DPS rotation so when one of the tanks has more DPS buttons than the others, it does require like a really really small amount of extra thought to play. But, in the grand scheme of things, I'd say that they're all relatively the same which is to say they're all braindead easy.

I never said its completly impossible hard but for most people it is pretty hard to play drk properly and these cases are warrior and pala way easier to play. Drk needs a bit more attention and effort then the other two if you want to dps and tank at the same time.

[Lyth]

But, in the grand scheme of things, I'd say that they're all relatively the same which is to say they're all braindead easy.

You can make any job's target dummy rotation into muscle memory in a couple of weeks. That doesn't mean that the job is simple to optimise in a raid setting, nor does it mean that you're actually going to be any good at it in practice. The deeper you go down the rabbit hole, the more complex it gets and the more creative you have to become to improve. If you think a job is trivial to play, you probably haven't played or analysed it well enough.

Which is fair; no matter how versatile of a player you are, there will always be one job you have either spent more time on or have more skill on than the rest. It's not about seeking validation for the job you play; you just understand its depth that much better.