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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    A good one. Just be a good one. Those are always popular.
    There is nothing more to say than that.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ZioSerpe View Post
    Also it might be worth noticing that in terms of skill ceiling probably warrior is the highest, which some might consider a good case for being the best.
    I would personally rate DRK above WAR in terms of difficulty as WAR rotation is kinda set in stone thanks to stacks it has, it reminds me alot of WoW's rogue with combo points so playing it feels kinda familiar. But in the end all 3 tanks should feel easymode after you play them for a while.
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  3. #13
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    I would personally rate DRK above WAR in terms of difficulty as WAR rotation is kinda set in stone thanks to stacks it has, it reminds me alot of WoW's rogue with combo points so playing it feels kinda familiar. But in the end all 3 tanks should feel easymode after you play them for a while.
    I agree that the skill ceiling for DRK is at least comparable with WAR, as someone who mains WAR and plays the other two tanks on a regular basis. Playing it decently is nbd; playing it to the top of its potential takes a lot of practice and skill.
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Looking at fflogs, wars comprise about 40% of all tanks in casual content, while plds and drk represent about 30 % each (pld is typically 0.5% -3% higher depending on specific content). In savage raiding wars represent 48% while drk and pld each have a fairly even share around 26%

    Creator Savage
    • WAR - 21564 - 48.64%
    • DRK - 11345 - 25.59%
    • PLD - 11420 - 25.76%

    Creator Normal, WCoM, VA combined totals
    • WAR - 5121 - 39.98%
    • DRK - 3760 - 29.36%
    • PLD - 3927 - 30.66%

    3.0 + EX trials
    • WAR - 3757 - 42.18%
    • DRK - 2053 - 23.05%
    • PLD - 3097 - 34.77%
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    Last edited by Deathgiver; 12-03-2016 at 04:30 AM.

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    Aleph Alpha
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    Kinda surprised that the number of pld clearing creator savage is more than that of drk, but seeing back into the four fights, the first 3 do have a lot of physical damages.
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    Kinda surprised that the number of pld clearing creator savage is more than that of drk, but seeing back into the four fights, the first 3 do have a lot of physical damages.
    Our MT has both geared, so he changes from PLD if DRK is better for the fight and vice versa.
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  7. #17
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    On a side note, I continue to be baffled by the number of people that say that war is harder to master than drk. Offensive skill usage only (includes defensive buffs that grant stacks on war) drk is more than 5 skills per minute more than war, and if you include defensive skills the gap widens to almost 7 without even counting low blow procs, reprisal procs or sole survivor. They both have a secondary resource that has to be balanced between offense and defense, and war doesn't have any proc skills that have to be monitored.
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  8. #18
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    It's fight dependent, but more like 10-20 in practice. The most interesting part of WAR is in how Berserk windows are tied to your defensive abilities, so if you actually have tanking responsibilities you can try to plan your windows so you can take advantage of the defensive cooldown. But the Berserk rotation itself is fixed and fairly simple, so executing it doesn't require a whole lot of thought or effort, especially if you've actually played a real melee job in any capacity.
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  9. #19
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    On a side note, I continue to be baffled by the number of people that say that war is harder to master than drk.
    WAR isn't even that hard to play, that attitude comes from when the only thing to compare it to was PLD. WAR was always the "harder tank to play" but when DRK came along and developed a new standard, the focus shifted to PLD being the "basic tank to play".
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  10. #20
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    Sarcatica Lin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    You can't really rely on FFlogs to showcase the most popular tank played though. There are quite a good amount of players who don't even upload anything at all.

    There was a census done by SE iirc back in 3.0 or something, PLD was by far the most popular tank and I would expect the same should SE decides to give out the data.

    Found it: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e8ff1bcf34c5ae

    PLD is the easiest tank to play, just like how majority of healers stick to WHM.
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    Last edited by Sarcatica; 12-04-2016 at 04:20 AM.

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