Poll: Which of these FF jobs would you like to see added to XIV the most?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

The mix of magic types is what primarily defines the red mage, so I'm not sure how that would be "no longer a RDM" if it started using those magics to grab aggro.

I'm never sure how that works either. Why can't there be a magic tank In game? All it needs to be a true RDM is have access to sword skills and offensive and defensive magics, and it'll very much be a traditional red mage. I don't get why magic is always considered a pure dps thing either...

[Mimilu]

K, then rename it. Salve Maker/Mixer. Scientist? Something like that.
They probably wouldn't ACTUALLY use real potions anyway.
Be nice if they did since potions are pretty null.

-Medic.
-Cannoneer

[Mugiawara]

I'm never sure how that works either. Why can't there be a magic tank In game? All it needs to be a true RDM is have access to sword skills and offensive and defensive magics, and it'll very much be a traditional red mage. I don't get why magic is always considered a pure dps thing either...

I never understood why "This job can't be this or that" when SE makes these jobs and has free reign on what they wanna do with it.
For the sake of some originality, it would be pretty neat to have a real "Magic" tank.
I would be a bit disappointed if SAM was a Tank honestly. May throw RDM as Tank
since it's the most wanted job, and they like to put most wanted jobs as the least desirable
role so people will be it....aka Tank lol.

[Iromi]

Voted dancer, and it seems to be winning

[Shurrikhan]

I'm never sure how that works either. Why can't there be a magic tank In game? All it needs to be a true RDM is have access to sword skills and offensive and defensive magics, and it'll very much be a traditional red mage. I don't get why magic is always considered a pure dps thing either...

If anything it's seemed the opposite to me. Because of various utilities embedded into elements (burn, chill, petrify, choke, whatnot) and specifically aimed spell effects (Gravity, Slow, etc.), physical attacks have always seemed the purer dps to me, where the positioning and chaining of those physical attackers gives them their less direct utility (tanking, suppression/stagger, etc.).

Because we have no precedent for a tank whose arsenal would be in no way wasted if he weren't to MT (though Warrior is a step closer to that), I'd prefer to see RDM as primarily a hybrid dps who can tank or heal at cost, but I can see the job still being fun, even if more limited (because much of its toolkit, if as precedented, will be siphoned off to fill ONLY that role) as a true tank, and would be fine with that as long as the gameplay is new and interesting enough.

...It'll just annoy me a fair bit if it ends up a parry tank blocking giant monster swipes with a blade that is at most 3 mm thick.

[Eul]

I voted for Dancer, because I'm interested what it looks like for males

[AlphaFox]

Dancer for me
Granted I think SAM and RDM are all but confirmed at the moment based on what has been said. Recall a post somewhere that basically said the new villian's weapon is not locked to him and RDM, well the whole shirt deal.

[Cenerae]

I'm kinda skeptical as to how you'd pull off the red mage shtick while also tanking.

The fencing part, sure, but there's not a lot of existing black or white magic in game that is instant cast. And red mage is supposed to be a jack of trades, not doing stuff better than the actual mages, so giving them insta-cast variations seems weird.

There's the spellfencer angle, but then is it really a red mage at that point? Doesn't give me the sort of vibe I'd expect is all I guess.

[Yeol]

I voted for Dancer, because I'm interested what it looks like for males

Fabulous✨

/10char

[Lambdafish]

Tank is the closest there is to a "jack-of-all-trades" role, imo. Self-heals - which aren't potent but get the job done - and middling dps. They excel at staying alive, granted.

This isn't true though, I already said that that RDM is a jack of all trades for black magic spells, white magic spells, and melee dps, and as has been said RDM being tank would not be a compromise between the three, rather be a tank that just so happens to have black and white magic (but not even truly, because it is a tank and needs to focus on defensive cooldowns, it would be like a PLD with some elemental "abilites" - spells don't work too well on tank).

Why can't there be a magic tank In game?

Mystic Knight. It is a job that uses black and white magic to imbue its blade with elemental affinity. Its like RDM but works much better as a tank because its abilities affect itself rather than the party/enemy as RDM does (MST abilities like shellblade work perfectly for a tank). Nobody said a magic tank wouldn't work, I only argued that RDM wouldn't work.