[Personal Opinion] FFXIV is too casual friendly

[bswpayton]

oh now

Im not exactly following what your tryin to say, like if content was as easy as is mention then people wouldnt ever die in any dungeon but they do and it happens all the time , a healer would never need to res, are swift cast wouldnt be a must , but guess what they do die, some people can think stone vigil is tuff i personally dont but ive seen people stink it up in there, my healer the other day died while i was tanking for standing in front of aoe, I think raid numbers are a great indication on what people want, alot of people even stop at floor 100 on potd dont even go beyond that point , thats why their are raid statics and tiers of raids, like I mention before if you anyone has ever played swtor you wana talk about easy story content you can kill story line bosses literally with one aoe, and that game is actually doing better finical than this one, so no hardcore content isnt the only draw that keeps people playing a game.

[Gumbercules]

yeah i kinda dislike that the overall settings are piss easy, mid core then hardcore. Piss easy should never have been there to begin with. i do understand where you are coming from though, the easy is just way too easy, new content wiping you once or twice is imo perfectly acceptable. hell if the issue is about ilvl (and lets be honest it is to an extend since new dungeons are meant to be withing a catch up range) then I wouldn't oppose a ilvl scale within dungeons. For example idk how many of you participated in the alpha/beta stages but the quest tuning during that time was imo spot on.

[Kaitoo]

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someone also can in the real world by drinking water, better nerf it

and now you make numbers up to doge my question, not even worth a discussion

[bswpayton]

someone also can in the real world by drinking water, better nerf it

and now you make numbers up to doge my question, not even worth a discussion

Making numbers up Im askin you for raid numbers if you think that everyone in the game wants high level content thats hardcore , I dono what people want but you actin like you do tho, I never hear players complaining about how easy content is other than on the forums, so with the hardest content in the game what percent of the games population has even done it.

[Caitlinzulu]

I am one of those who dont raid, reason being my work schedule prevents me from joining any static. In my opinion dungeons are hard enough, with some groups they feel easy but with others they feel ........
Do you really want to do raid level difficulty dungeons with random groups? I would be interested to see the clear rates from that.

Wiping city is not that hard and yet the wipes are strong in that one. That alone should prove that the playerbase as a whole is not ready for more very difficult dungeons.

[Maero]

Or perhaps offer various difficulties, "Hard Mode" dungeons or not really what i mean, as they are not hard, lol
Chances are however that many will cry to nerf the content to be easier

[Kaitoo]

Making numbers up Im askin you for raid numbers if you think that everyone in the game wants high level content thats hardcore , I dono what people want but you actin like you do tho, I never hear players complaining about how easy content is other than on the forums, so with the hardest content in the game what percent of the games population has even done it.

you brought some made up numbers to begin with, how about starting those since you have no argument at all?

[bswpayton]

you brought some made up numbers to begin with, how about starting those since you have no argument at all?

I didnt mention any numbers I was telling you based on experience, the very first thing I replied to you was did you have any raid numbers , because its common knowledge that alot of people dont savage raid , and if thats the case then Id assume that means everyone doesnt want extremely hard content.

[Kaitoo]

I didnt mention any numbers I was telling you based on experience, the very first thing I replied to you was did you have any raid numbers , because its common knowledge that alot of people dont savage raid , and if thats the case then Id assume that means everyone doesnt want extremely hard content.

and it s common knowledge that there are millions of different difficultys between savage raiding and easy faceroll content what we have now, so its common knowledge that the bolded statment make no sense as in you have no argument

[Gumbercules]

" ... dungeons are hard enough, with some groups they feel easy but with others they feel ... Wiping city is not that hard and yet the wipes are strong in that one. That alone should prove that the playerbase as a whole is not ready for more very difficult dungeons..."

what about them being at wiping city levels though (24 man raids are tuned around casual play anyways) True you do run into some really undesirable wiping city raids but, you honestly rarely run into one that cannot ultimately clear. On a 4 man scale i think the size alone would make the learning, and retention of learning said things, way higher than a 24 man raid too. No one is really saying extreme primal the expert roulette ones for example...just...make it more than a park attraction ride. (though admittedly i do get to see alot of the dungeons art with current difficulty :P)