Can we get rid of prisms please?

[Naunet]

Okay, so... If you like having the same outfit for different roles, then I'm not sure why a separate wardrobe section that lets you build and set one outfit that wouldn't change when you change jobs/classes is a "horrible idea".

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Because if I'm as a healer, which use the Valerian Shaman set, I don't want to switch jobs to ninja and have myself inexplicably still wearing the Shaman set when it doesn't match the ninja theme. That means I'd have to go to the menu instead of simply switching jobs, and changing to the appropriate look. As often as I change jobs, it's disruptive to the flow of gameplay and discourages me from playing other jobs, which I enjoy doing.

I don't even spend much time in menu, I can change jobs straight from my hot bar.

[Vethos]

Because if I'm as a healer, which use the Valerian Shaman set, I don't want to switch jobs to ninja and have myself inexplicably still wearing the Shaman set when it doesn't match the ninja theme. That means I'd have to go to the menu instead of simply switching jobs, and changing to the appropriate look. As often as I change jobs, it's disruptive to the flow of gameplay and discourages me from playing other jobs, which I enjoy doing.

I don't even spend much time in menu, I can change jobs straight from my hot bar.

that or the glamour could just change along with your gear set

[Naunet]

Because if I'm as a healer, which use the Valerian Shaman set, I don't want to switch jobs to ninja and have myself inexplicably still wearing the Shaman set when it doesn't match the ninja theme. That means I'd have to go to the menu instead of simply switching jobs, and changing to the appropriate look. As often as I change jobs, it's disruptive to the flow of gameplay and discourages me from playing other jobs, which I enjoy doing.

I don't even spend much time in menu, I can change jobs straight from my hot bar.

... then make it so outfit sets can be put on hotbars, too? Like gearsets? Oh no, you'd have to click two buttons on occasion! The horror. That's definitely worth refusing something that would bring a lot of people much pleasure.

You're still contradicting yourself, though. You claim you prefer having the same outfit across multiple jobs, and then you complain that when you change jobs, you want to change your costume.

[Nezerius]

Because if I'm as a healer, which use the Valerian Shaman set, I don't want to switch jobs to ninja and have myself inexplicably still wearing the Shaman set when it doesn't match the ninja theme..

If SE were to add a system like this, it'd be very likely that a glamour set would be tied to a gear set. So if you'd go from healer to NIN, you'd go from Valerian Shaman set to whichever set your NIN is wearing.

... then make it so outfit sets can be put on hotbars, too? Like gearsets? Oh no, you'd have to click two buttons on occasion! The horror. That's definitely worth refusing something that would bring a lot of people much pleasure.

While I don't agree with Thunda, adding even more buttons to the hotbar is a bad idea. I already have two full bars with just DoW/M/H/L job buttons, I wouldn't be able to double that.

[FaileExperiment]

That's exactly what I don't want. I have different outfits per job for a reason, and since I change jobs practically every five minutes, this means that I would literally have to be going into the menu every five minutes just to change my look. No. No. Bad. This is a horrible idea.

Dude that makes no sense. If a system like this were implemented, obviously you would have the option to tie gearsets to glamour sets. Non-issue. In fact I see a glamour "set", being like an equippable item in the character UI, saved to a gearset. Easiest and simplest way to handle it.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

While I don't agree with Thunda, adding even more buttons to the hotbar is a bad idea. I already have two full bars with just DoW/M/H/L job buttons, I wouldn't be able to double that.

I've got 8 full hot bars, with macros, potions, combat and pvp actions, crafting, combat, and gathering gear sets, the windows I check most often, repairing, teleports, my favorite six minions, my favorite 4 mounts +1 token ground mount, return, melding, and sprint all on my varied bars! I don't think I could even begin to find space for my glamour buttons!

change roles, you want to change your costume.

This is something that negatively effects my enjoyment of the game, so of course I'm gonna be outspoken about it. And yes, naturally, when I change from a healing to a combat job, I want something that looks the part. The Valerian shaman set doesn't suit a dps or tank job at all. If I swap from my thavnarian sarouel dressed caster deeps to my paladin or dark Knight, of course I'm gonna want to have a look that compliments my Baldur Blade/sword and darksteel scutum.

[Naunet]

So my photoshop skills are pretty minimal, but this is kinda what I envision:



Glamour tab in the character panel. You click on an empty Glamour Set box to start building an outfit and then click on whatever armor/weapon slot you want to glamour. This brings up the UI to the right, which would be a list of the different armor appearances you've unlocked. It would NOT unlock different gears with the same armor model; I just copied the hat icon because I didn't wanna go in and take screenshots of a bunch of different hat icons. Anyway, you click which one you want - it would show up as a preview in the paperdoll there in the middle, and then when you're ready you just hit the Select Appearance button. If you really want, the Save Appearance button could consume a Glamour Prism.

There ya go. Simple and straightforward.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

I've got 8 full hot bars, with macros, potions, combat and pvp actions, crafting, combat, and gathering gear sets, the windows I check most often, repairing, teleports, my favorite six minions, my favorite 4 mounts +1 token ground mount, return, melding, and sprint all on my varied bars! I don't think I could even begin to find space for my glamour buttons!



This is something that negatively effects my enjoyment of the game, so of course I'm gonna be outspoken about it. And yes, naturally, when I change from a healing to a combat job, I want something that looks the part. The Valerian shaman set doesn't suit a dps or tank job at all. If I swap from my thavnarian sarouel dressed caster deeps to my paladin or dark Knight, of course I'm gonna want to have a look that compliments my Baldur Blade/sword and darksteel scutum.

I do believe the idea would be that we'd be able to tie specific glamor sets to gearsets as an option, as well as being able to swap between glamor sets ont he fly..?

[ErdrickLoto]

If you tied it to a separate "costume" function, you could easily macro it, even.