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  1. #21
    Player
    bswpayton's Avatar
    登録日
    2016/09/30
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    Nic Pay
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    白魔道士 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:WeekendSoja 投稿を閲覧
    Sadly, sync or unsync is not going to fix awareness. If the new DPS was failing that many mechanics than it would take a patient mentor to take the time to explain and wait.

    And if this DPS had the bonus message, he must have been doing really bad for the other guy to forgo potential second chance points.

    As moururii said, it's more beneficial to get caught up with everyone in heavensward than continue to bang your head against pre-hw content. The current game design caters to players constantly improving themselves at max level and using those skills to faceroll old content.

    Also, if you want to do content sync'd, try to use the party finder. You may find the eccentric group of friends who like sync'd content.
    Well I just read another post on the forum and it mention that there will be a jump potion , was so against this and now after seeing how most of this content isnt relevant , I guess I agree with it now
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  2. #22
    Player
    Frowny's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/07/11
    Location
    Gridania
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    Character
    Rai Dolabnha
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:bswpayton 投稿を閲覧
    I totally understand what your saying but your missing what I'm saying, which is that vets want new players not to suck well guess what when you run everything Unsync its bound to happen.
    Not sure how you came to that conclusion. An Ice Mage will always be an Ice Mage until someone calls him out. Him suddenly going into Titan EX synced isn't going to make him go "oh, I should use Fire 3!"

    And honestly, the content people do unsynced they rarely do synced, ie. EX primals. Also, rotations change soooo drastically at 60 (looking at you, BLM), so doing the old side-content at 50 to "learn" is... honestly not worth much beyond challenge/story.
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  3. #23
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    2016/09/30
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    Nic Pay
    World
    Exodus
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    白魔道士 Lv 80
    [QUOTE=Frowny;3934858]Not sure how you came to that conclusion. An Ice Mage will always be an Ice Mage until someone calls him out. Him suddenly going into Titan EX synced isn't going to make him go "oh, I should use Fire 3!"
    People speak of challenge like its a bad thing , like is it a bad thing that your level 60 and you can still die in the level 50 content. Whats wrong with challenge people clam everything is so easy and boring but yet wana run stuff unsync. If you know how to do it , shouldnt matter if its sync or not , challenge is a good thing whats not a good thing is that people that want the challenge and want to learn content at all levels arent seeming to get that chance.
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  4. #24
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    joannaluttrell's Avatar
    登録日
    2016/08/05
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Simara D'antono
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 26
    Quote 引用元:bswpayton 投稿を閲覧
    People speak of challenge like its a bad thing , like is it a bad thing that your level 60 and you can still die in the level 50 content. Whats wrong with challenge people clam everything is so easy and boring but yet wana run stuff unsync. If you know how to do it , shouldnt matter if its sync or not , challenge is a good thing whats not a good thing is that people that want the challenge and want to learn content at all levels arent seeming to get that chance.
    You have the chance. You can make a PF for synced content. Making it so other people *can't* do something just because you don't seem to want to make the effort to do what you already can is not helpful.
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  5. #25
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    Rawrz's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/07/09
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    Sir Rawrz
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 90
    The whole idea that 50 content should prepare you for "end game" content needs scraped from your mind. Back then, 50 content and "end game" content was the same. You learned by progressing through the end game from trials to coils. People have and will do the same at 60.

    Also, At 60 your tool kit, and those around you, expands! The game changes for many classes. Look at Bard for example. It's a bow mage now that wants to use empyreal arrow as much as possible and to keep dots up with iron jaws! The blood letter proc is still there, but it's raw mobility and weave time has died down significantly (thank god for feint.)
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  6. #26
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    Frowny's Avatar
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    2015/07/11
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    Gridania
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    Rai Dolabnha
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:bswpayton 投稿を閲覧
    People speak of challenge like its a bad thing , like is it a bad thing that your level 60 and you can still die in the level 50 content. Whats wrong with challenge people clam everything is so easy and boring but yet wana run stuff unsync. If you know how to do it , shouldnt matter if its sync or not , challenge is a good thing whats not a good thing is that people that want the challenge and want to learn content at all levels arent seeming to get that chance.
    You seem to be all over the place as to why people run stuff unsynced. It has nothing to do with challenge. It is mostly about farming ponies and drops in the most efficient way possible. The people farming drops don't care about a challenge, they just want a drop.
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  7. #27
    Player
    bswpayton's Avatar
    登録日
    2016/09/30
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    Nic Pay
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    白魔道士 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Frowny 投稿を閲覧
    You seem to be all over the place as to why people run stuff unsynced. It has nothing to do with challenge. It is mostly about farming ponies and drops in the most efficient way possible. The people farming drops don't care about a challenge, they just want a drop.
    Excuse me for coming to the game in 2016 , I love the community but it really just seems like the vet players just dont really want new players in the game. Like what is wrong with me wanting to play content thts in the game like this is the craziest thing Ive ever heard. Like its there why do I have to have a reason I pay for extra retainers, I pay for alts, and buy stuff from the mog staton. So is it really a crime to want to play content thats in the game I will never understand this how many years did it take everyone to get to hw like 2 , now its like if someone even takees 3 months to get there its a crime.
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  8. #28
    Player
    Lyraele's Avatar
    登録日
    2016/10/11
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    Character
    Lyraele Inglorion
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    ナイト Lv 70
    It's not a crime to want to play the content. But your assertion about the longer-time players not wanting/welcoming new players doesn't seem to me to be true at all. And you can't blame them for not wanting to be forced to do old (to them) content unsync'd. Many people have already pointed out to you how you could find like-minded people to "play the old content as SE intended"(tm). If that doesn't work out, maybe it's a sign to move along to the newer stuff that maybe they are interested in. You can't expect people to want to repeat things, especially not if the only payoff is some newcomers get to experience some content the same way they did 3 years ago. It's just not compelling. And from what they say, not even necessary as the gameplay at 50 doesn't really match the gameplay at 60. So why not just enjoy it for what it is rather than obsess over what it used to be?
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  9. #29
    Player
    bswpayton's Avatar
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    2016/09/30
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    Nic Pay
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    白魔道士 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Lyraele 投稿を閲覧
    It's not a crime?
    But the thing is people do que for this I just qued tonight for king moogle extreme we whiped twice and everybody quit. I didnt even die until everyone else had the first time. Like what is the point in this content still being in the game it cost money to keep it there is nobody wants to do it then take it out and have money for other stuff like everyone wants. Im not tryin to relive something that I cant, but this is eight man content Im talkin about even if like tonight I was doing well , it doesnt matter if the whole team isnt people will just quit and thats lame. Nobody is gona force me to join content that it took everyone else years to get to Ill make it to hw this year, but ill do it on my own time. Its just stupiid how people complain about players not being good when they will just leave a dungeon , or abandon a trail with literally 40 mins left but they will do satsha for thiry mins np its stupid.
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  10. #30
    Player
    Lyraele's Avatar
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    2016/10/11
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    Character
    Lyraele Inglorion
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    ナイト Lv 70
    the vast majority of the cost in content is initial development, not keeping it around. Removing it isn't going to free up a pile of cash to plow into new content. And it's hard to imagine a less expensive way to breathe new life into old content than to allow people who out-gear and out-level it to go back with an undersized crew and slaughter it for drops of some sort. Which is apparently what they have done. You can either accept that for what it is or continue to be frustrated that you aren't getting the same experience the veteran players did years ago. Why choose to be frustrated? You've been told repeatedly that this old content doesn't really do anything to meaningfully prepare one for the new content, so why keep throwing that out there? I would think you'd be a lot happier with this stuff if you would let some of your preconceived notions go and run with what (and who) there is...
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