Not the time to charge, cya in 2013...

[Dragon]

Go ahead and pay for an unfinished train wreck, I really don't care what -you- do. I'm just expressing how insulting it is to say "Hey, the game is like, 50% complete, but hey! Pay us and we'll make it better / complete!"

And by the way I'm not acting high and mighty. I'm trying to express how I feel. How is that acting high and mighty?

How about being objective by telling us why we should feel unsatisfied just because you do, or you know, just admit it's only your own opinion instead of clinging onto it as if it's something more than subjective.

[December]

OMG, December doesn't even have a class to 15, why are we even bothering to reply. It takes like 30 minutes to get to 15.

December, do you work for MMORPG.com?

I think the argument has died out here anyway. We all obviously have differing opinions about what is and what is not considered a beta version of an MMORPG. They don't even have a test server, because we are the test servers.

[December]

What a childish statement. To what end? You honestly think if enough people don't come back that they will make the game free again? Why should they? At some point in time, they do need to start making some money off this game, especially if they want to pay all those people to continue to changing things around.

it may have come off as childish. I just think that a fail-game deserves to fail. If they want to try and make it up to us as players, and make the game better, I am all for it. I just won't be paying them to fix mistakes.

[Sputnik]

lol BYE, you wont be missed

[Abriael]

Like I said, this isn't a charity.

No. It's not. They're providing a product. Products are normally paid for.

[Wynn]

it may have come off as childish. I just think that a fail-game deserves to fail. If they want to try and make it up to us as players, and make the game better, I am all for it. I just won't be paying them to fix mistakes.

You need to grow up. Glad we won't be seeing you around much longer.

[Molly_Millions]

I think the argument has died out here anyway. We all obviously have differing opinions about what is and what is not considered a beta version of an MMORPG. They don't even have a test server, because we are the test servers.

Opinion is irrelevant as to whether this game is in beta or not, it's not, the beta ended in Sept. Also, SE does have test servers, those test servers are running the new server software or did you not read the post on the front page?

[grandm]

OP claims they only log on once in a while for 5 mins to check thing out and 50% of ppl do like him. well if you don't play regular you won't be missed. but incase you think all think like you check out the numbers in this poll

Pay to Play Subscription - Cast your votes!

more than double say yes to nay

[Anty]

thinking about the roadmap and the fact that maybe in may 2013!!!! this game will be in good shape - better server, good, responsive ui, mailbox, delivery etc. etc., it really is more then a slap in the face to even think about having the community pay for the development.

So many ppl payed for the rushed, cheap, failed development in the first place by purchasing the game. then getting 200 EUR/dollar from every player til the final ps3 release on top of it? Unbelievable that SE has the nerve to do this. Honestly! Not even Apple would do this to his more then loyal/blind fans (and they are in a much better position).

Not to mention to have Yoshi post that the game is at like 50% of where it should be not long ago. Something really goes very wrong behind the walls of SE...

We already have to start over from dated to normal gear, former content is close to useless. Many very basic things are still not working. No F2P game would survive it.

YOU HAVE THE FANS!!!! Don't F** with them any further.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

And yes, they do owe me. THEY OWE ME A $50 GAME. A game that is WORTH $50. Or have you forgotten that you BOUGHT a BETA? And now you feel it's right to charge for it?

EDIT: Don't act so high and mighty, by the way. just because you pay for something that I don't. it isn't a charity. They are a business, and they made a bad game. A game they admitted time and time again is not even close to complete. It's LOGICAL to assume that most people won't want to pay for a game that's not even fucking finished.

You are not entitled to more than what they've given you. Which was a asinine amount of free months to play the game. You've been given way more than you put into the game financially. You were not entitled to any more free play months ago, but since the game was in such bad shape there was no choice, but to keep the free trial.

SE is now saying, "Are you a giver? Or are you a taker?" The players who have faith in their direction, have an ounce of empathy, or are not ungrateful a-holes will most likely pay to play soon. Not to mention that with the look of 2.0, this seems to be a pretty expensive task and the number of people we find working on this game plus the amount of work that is now being shown for the first time previously behind closed doors, you'd have to be an idiot to not understand why they need to start charging.

You think with all of that effort being put into the game that they would be okay with bringing in no revenue? Grow a brain.