Not the time to charge, cya in 2013...

[Kailea_Nagisa]

I don't think they have any right to charge us to play a beta. It's been a year and still no search function, no useable LFG system, and no mail. The game is a wasteland outside of chatting linkshells. Now that tons of people are going to quit, the game is going to become even more desolate. Why am I going to -pay- to play a game that's not even really ready?

I always thought to myself that they would only change when this theoretical 2.0 was released (and on PS3 too)... but to charge us for it one year ahead of time? I understand there are bills to pay, but SE really made a horrible game and deserve to pay the price. I still feel insulted that they even released the game in the first place.

I only log in to play around, check to see what's changed, and log out, and I'm sure at least 50% of the players are exactly like me (if not more).

Don't get me wrong, I had a huge smile on my face as I read through the announcement and saw the PDFs about 2.0... but I'm not paying for 1.9, or 1.20.

Unfortunately, they are probably making the wrong decision on behalf of the players. I already feel insulted -again-. For the entire 2012 I'm going to be pissed at them for not allowing the people who payed 50+ dollars for this garbage continue to see the updates that THEY OWE US first hand. Now I'm going to have to be a forum dweller.

TLDR: I feel insulted all over again and refuse to pay for beta, a bad beta at that.

you have two choices....

dont get charged and the game will remain mostly the same
get charged and have this 2.0 thing happen

I am taking the gamble and going for broke.

[Molly_Millions]

I know I am tripple posting so bare with me.

The main reason I am posting this, is for the rare chance that I might change some of your minds into paying for this, and in the end SE doesn't get as much money per month.

How does it feel to fight a losing battle?

[AlexNiculaie]

Go ahead and pay for an unfinished train wreck, I really don't care what -you- do. I'm just expressing how insulting it is to say "Hey, the game is like, 50% complete, but hey! Pay us and we'll make it better / complete!"

And by the way I'm not acting high and mighty. I'm trying to express how I feel. How is that acting high and mighty?

Your opinion remains just that, an opinion. Fine, you don't find it worth playing or paying for . Good for you. You obviously don't speak for everyone else. Acting as if your opinion somehow constitues fact or logic is rather pretentious. Claiming those you share your opinion are the only ones "with a brain" is exactly how you are "acting all high and mighty." You're being arrogant. Stop pretending otherwise.

Personalty, I don't find the current state to be a "train wreck." You do. Who cares? The current state of the game is fun, and has plenty for me to do. More content is coming within a month or so, with more being added about every two months. That is worth sticking around for me (And apparently about 2/3rds of those on the forums).

Rant on, but you long ago passed just expressing a simple opinion.

[Abriael]

No, because once again, you are missing the point. They have told us the game is not complete. They have said it's only 50% of what it should be. They are only charging for it now because they feel they can get away with it (that's just an opinion). How can you tell your customer base that it's going to be an entirely new game, inside and out, and then charge you to help them make the changes that should have been there from day one?

What they say (about the content of the game, and not the game itself, and mind you, there's still going to be 1.20 before they start charging) is no matter. What matter is that the game is plenty enjoyable now, and there's nothing wrong in charging for an enjoyable product while providing constant updates.

It's actually way more enjoyable than many other games whose developers say that they're 100% complete.

It's not that we're missing the point. The problem is that you don't have one.

I know I am tripple posting so bare with me.

The main reason I am posting this, is for the rare chance that I might change some of your minds into paying for this, and in the end SE doesn't get as much money per month.

So basically you're petitioning for them to have less money for future development. Yes, great idea.

Oh wait... We already knew your main reason. And that main reason is ridiculous.

[December]

The trouble is 90% of these forums are complaint threads. Asking folks in game does not produce the same percentage of negative sentiment. Charging a fee will drastically reduce the amount of complaining. It will clear up space for folks to actually talk about things that are fun to talk about, you know like game mechanics and strategy.

yes and they will stay complaint threads unfortunately. That's what most forums are really for, feedback and discussion. If SE didn't make such a bad game, maybe there wouldn't be as much complaining?

Also, there are still fan sites and other forum communities that I post on, where I can still talk about FFXIV, no matter that SE wants to shut out non-subscribers from their discussions (which I think is a bad idea anyway)

[Molly_Millions]

OMG, December doesn't even have a class to 15, why are we even bothering to reply. It takes like 30 minutes to get to 15.

December, do you work for MMORPG.com?

[Kinghoran]

I agree, the only thing hey have left to do is add content to this game that's been out for a year. They've handled a ton of crap but as said above, you'll still have something to complain about.

I'm just glad I finally got my chocobo, heh!

[December]

So basically you're petitioning for them to have less money for future development. Yes, great idea.

Like I said, this isn't a charity.

[AlexNiculaie]

The main reason I am posting this, is for the rare chance that I might change some of your minds into paying for this, and in the end SE doesn't get as much money per month.

What a childish statement. To what end? You honestly think if enough people don't come back that they will make the game free again? Why should they? At some point in time, they do need to start making some money off this game, especially if they want to pay all those people to continue to changing things around.

[neorei]

hey thanks for reminding me to cancel my wow account.