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[SpookyGhost]

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The excuse that "DF matches you against random people, you shouldn't expect the party to be good" is really flawed. I always expect the party to be good, because I expect if you're going to be participating in team-based content then you're going to want to play your part in said team. If you don't, then I will give you advice or ask you to participate if you're just doing cartwheels. If then you decide to still play poorly or not at all, then I'm starting a vote dismiss on you. You bring up "he pays the same sub you do, you're both equal" - but what you're ignoring is that kicking someone isn't down to just one player deciding to boot someone, it's a vote. If the team thinks your mentality/playstyle doesn't mesh well with theirs, then they have every right to remove you from it.

Willfully ignorant players should be held accountable for their actions - this applies across the board to tanks, healers, and DPS. This is why the JP DF scene thrives - everyone feels like they need to play their part and if they mess up or under perform they feel guilty about it, they don't just go "meh w/e still won doesn't matter lololol".

[RobbieH]

The excuse that "DF matches you against random people, you shouldn't expect the party to be good" is really flawed. I always expect the party to be good

This is like a Job, you go do your work nicely done and then you expect your colleagues to do the same, yet you find yourself sometimes doing THEIR job. And you get paid the same.

Welcome to the human world, real life reflects here.

but what you're ignoring is that kicking someone isn't down to just one player deciding to boot someone, it's a vote. If the team thinks your mentality/playstyle doesn't mesh well with theirs, then they have every right to remove you from it.

Sorry but this is an invalid argument, people like to vote "yes" just because, or they're with friends and there's still the thing that you can still get kicked if the majority votes yes, which doesn't mean others voted no.

I'm going to quote myself from previous page:

There's this one time (somewhere in the last 5 runs i was doing in Research Facility (150 Lore dungeon) so i could finish Ninja i240 Anima), i went ahead and trigger the elevator after 2nd boss to make it a little bit faster, i got warned by the tank not to pull again (apparently triggering the elevator is a pull) or he would kick me, i proceed to ask how is that a pull and got kicked.

This is an example of vote kick abuse and that premade parties prove that voting "yes" is not an argument but rather a choice of "i'm with my friends so i vote yes".

People who are playing with friends will for the most part vote yes, as will they vote no if it's to kick one of their friends.

Willfully ignorant players should be held accountable for their actions

Yeah let's find a way to fire co-workers that are bad while we're at it, then we'll get more bad ones and still find ourselves doing their work.

The same will happen in the game.

This is why the JP DF scene thrives - everyone feels like they need to play their part and if they mess up or under perform they feel guilty about it, they don't just go "meh w/e still won doesn't matter lololol".

Yes, i'm sure ALL JP players are flawless, let's all transfer to JP and leave the bad players to themselves, let's jump ship.

Do you know why they strive? Because they help each other, in Europe and Americas people like to criticize but not help each other at all.

What have people been doing the last few pages? Complain, have they helped "bad players" meanwhile? No.

TL;DR There's a mentor system, when it came out it was nice to show off the crown icon, but 95% of those people didn't help anyone, being them new or old players. No let's all complain, it's easier. Now some of those people who could have been taught the game better are bad players, alright.