Not the time to charge, cya in 2013...

[Molly_Millions]

I think the argument has died out here anyway. We all obviously have differing opinions about what is and what is not considered a beta version of an MMORPG. They don't even have a test server, because we are the test servers.

Opinion is irrelevant as to whether this game is in beta or not, it's not, the beta ended in Sept. Also, SE does have test servers, those test servers are running the new server software or did you not read the post on the front page?

[December]

Opinion is irrelevant as to whether this game is in beta or not, it's not, the beta ended in Sept. Also, SE does have test servers, those test servers are running the new server software or did you not read the post on the front page?

I get that they have inner-company test servers, or else they wouldn't be releasing anything. Normally, MMORPGs use a player ready test server to get feedback in real time, not after they release patches. I think that telling us the game is 50% of what they want it to be, is basically telling us it is a beta. Look at the radical changes coming in 2.0, you won't even be playing the same game a year from now.

[Molly_Millions]

I get that they have inner-company test servers, or else they wouldn't be releasing anything. Normally, MMORPGs use a player ready test server to get feedback in real time, not after they release patches. I think that telling us the game is 50% of what they want it to be, is basically telling us it is a beta. Look at the radical changes coming in 2.0, you won't even be playing the same game a year from now.

That still doesn't change the fact that we are playing the retail version of the game, not a beta. The fact is, you have no idea why they don't have public test servers, that's all speculation on your part. FFXI never had public test servers, and many other companies operate the same way. I test software for a living, and can tell you with 100% certainty that public test servers are not the norm.

...Keeping your lame arguments up is akin to trying to put 20 lbs of shit in a 10 lb bag.