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  1. #51
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Game_Over View Post
    This makes sense even though I'm against the concept.
    Just consider that SCH can already be 'pushed' to 60 with only playing the base class till 50 and doing the job quests, while playing a dps role.

    I don't recognize the average SCH more worse as the average SMN.

    You can argue about situational awarness and interpreting situations/marks/mechanics. But you can't demand the MSQ to teach you rotational, job related things anyway, not in a game where you use 1 job (or maybe 2 as Arcanist) to do MSQ and afterwsrd up to 12 jobs who can be maxed by fating or PotD.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 11-15-2016 at 02:10 AM.

  2. #52
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    Berethos's Avatar
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FJerome View Post
    people are already calling you the WoL.
    It's not just the title...the events your character has been through so far have so shaped both the story and characters, and the Scions wouldn't be in the position they are in without the influence of the current WoL. It's simply not as simple as having a new person come in having done something heroic.

    Maybe they could pull the "you're a replacement for the original WoL who died and only a few know" as that could be done with a new intro and minimal dialogue changes. About the only way that doesn't add a host of complications.
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  3. #53
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    Agin Wildfang
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RukiaFae View Post
    He didn't comment on her only said the WOL is a Monk and that is the male AF gear. This is per the translation.
    He didn't said "male AF", he simply said Monk AF.

    And Female AF won't be that different, how different has it been from the Male armor so far?

    If she was a Monk it would make sense for him to say so.

    Unless he wants people to keep speculate (good strat to keep people interested)

    I'm still convinced she's a Dancer, and Dancer will be Healer.

    I also think:

    - We won't have DPS Samurai but Gunblade Job instead.
    - If we get Samurai it will be Tank and not DPS.

    If not:

    - DPS Samurai
    - Tank Red Mage
    - Healer Dancer

    There's also the chance they add a second DPS into a 4.X patch, which could be Samurai.
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  4. #54
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Leveling potions? WTF I have two classes left to get to 60 and now i'm very unmotivated. Thanks for screwing everything up, SE.
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  5. #55
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    RobbieH's Avatar
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    Agin Wildfang
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    Ragnarok
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    Leveling potions? WTF I have two classes left to get to 60 and now i'm very unmotivated. Thanks for screwing everything up, SE.
    How exactly does the Potion stop you from leveling the remaining two classes to 60?
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  6. #56
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieH View Post
    How exactly does the Potion stop you from leveling the remaining two classes to 60?
    The point is that people can just pay and get to 60 without doing any hard work. I'm just assuming things but I can see it being on the cash shop. It doesn't stop me from getting those classes up... but it takes away all the work with a single potion. Why? I thought the game was supposed to teach you your class... not level with a silly potion. I understand people will want to get to 70 but why invalidate everyone's hard work?
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  7. #57
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    RosaLunaCelestia's Avatar
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    Luna Luorc'a
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    Moogle
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    If people pay potion i want it really expensive . Well, i will get motivation back like that lol
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  8. #58
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    Leigaon's Avatar
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Carpenter Lv 63
    Maybe it would fall on how they implement the leveling potion and redoing skills. Most of them will have to do the dungeons anyways or level through them normally for other jobs to get any specific actions that they might want, or need.

    If they start out as a Gladiator / PLD and boost to 60, they still have to do the class quests and job quests. They would miss maybe 5 or so dungeons the first time around and could solo the ones up to 50, after that they may find it difficult as a new player to solo some of the stuff 50 and beyond. They would still have access, though them using it isn't something we can force, to gameplay that teaches you how to play. Looks like from 3.0, you can skip the first dungeon but the rest are locked behind the story.

    I would say it is safe to say it will be on the cash shop and rather expensive. People will be willing to pay for it though, I just don't think it will help them out as much as they think and is a waste of money. So it would be "Here's level 60..and here is your iLV1 gear. Enjoy."

    When 4.0 comes out everyone will be so focused on that, so those who need to do certain fights and such along the way from 2.0 - 4.0 to catch up will just have an easier time. They might still have to do the whole story, and will have to level other jobs. Then again, they could use a potion on every job. If you make it expensive enough that won't happen as much. Should only be applied to combat classes, there's nothing you can do as a Fisher that will make you catch up to the 4.0 crowd any easier in terms of content.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 11-15-2016 at 02:52 AM.

  9. #59
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 81
    Who said pay to win in the back of the classroom ?

    And don't start with the usual "it's not P2W in FF14 etc" as long as you pay real money to get an advantage in game over others it's pay to win, and paying lets say 60 bucks for not having to lvl your class IS pay 2 win
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  10. #60
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    Ast Eryut
    World
    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    If no viera for 5.0 then I rather not see them in the future. It will be a waste of momentum and demand by 5.0. It was the "cool" thing in 2016, not 2019.
    At least this saves me $60, won't have to buy the tokyo/germany fanfest streams now

    Also leveling potion I see as a bad idea.

    The better solution is to increase the amount of tomestones from running realm reborn dungeons or extra gil...stuff like that
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    Last edited by Ghastly; 11-15-2016 at 02:58 AM.

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