We need to let the devs be devs.

[JCharms]

They need feedback from the fans.
Think about where AST would be right now if we didn't "whine" about it.
They felt that AST and MCH was perfectly fine. If we didn't give our input they would be in 3.4 horrifically underpowered.

When topics like this show up, that essentially tells everyone who gives feedback on the game to shut up, it really bothers me.

I understand what you're saying, but I feel for every 1 piece of well thought out and reasoned feedback or suggestion, there's probably 100 pieces of utter garbage. Quite the conundrum.

[Kyuuen]

They need feedback from the fans.
Think about where AST would be right now if we didn't "whine" about it.
They felt that AST and MCH was perfectly fine. If we didn't give our input they would be in 3.4 horrifically underpowered.

When topics like this show up, that essentially tells everyone who gives feedback on the game to shut up, it really bothers me.

I think the OP is talking more towards the "fluff" demands moreso than the mechanical/balance demands.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

I understand what you're saying, but I feel for every 1 piece of well thought out and reasoned feedback or suggestion, there's probably 100 pieces of utter garbage. Quite the conundrum.

I do understand that this is an issue. I'm sure the devs are able to take the well thought out and logical complaints over the ones that seem less important though.

[Frowny]

I understand what you're saying, but I feel for every 1 piece of well thought out and reasoned feedback or suggestion, there's probably 100 pieces of utter garbage. Quite the conundrum.

This is why you have a community manager and a team under them. They can sort the good ideas from the noise. It isn't like the devs, instead of developing, read through every suggestion.

This is true of any major game: a team serves as a middleman to relay info/ideas to the dev team who then makes the final call.

[MicahZerrshia]

I don't mind the aesthetic posts (except the Viera thing, by the twelve let that rest) which the devs can easily ignore or posts about job balance issues and such the only posts I cannot stand are the ones that pop up on everything about nerfs or things that take time. It's an mmo we need at least a couple optional long term goals that are not going to be squashed by the next update and a lil challenge is fun...

I will direct you to the thread about that optional Sophia ex fight being too hard. You know that thing so so many can do with their toes while eating dinner and watching Netflix. I mean, I just, I don't... come the heck on.

What I will get on the devs about, and have called them out on many posts about various topics, is when they say "look at this cool thing we are going to do!" and then never ever mention it again. So annoying.

[DamianFatale]

You are getting overly hostile, when I didn't mean anything bad at all. Perhaps you didn't consider that after making so many suggestion posts, along with other members of this community, I thought about things a little. I'm allowed to slow down on suggestions if I feel a reason to. Maybe instead of making fun of me, and trying to get petty due to the things that I post, you could ignore it and move on. We're all allowed to have our own opinions, and lately I feel that there are TOO MANY suggestions.

I would also like to add that the way people are negatively linking my topics is petty, and sad. You shouldn't pressure people just because you think their opinion is odd, or doesn't align with you. Yeah, its easy to make fun of me, because I want our characters bodies to have a little more realism i.e muscle sliders, and more obvious nipples, but its also stooping quite low. You made those posts knowing that it would be easy for people to make fun of me for those opinions.

Lastly, I never did say that people couldn't make suggestions, all I was trying to do was portray another point of view. I really want people to consider that the game developers have to be inspired with their work, and so it might be good for the game if we let some of our wants go. That's ALL. I wasn't saying anyone HAD TO do a certain thing, but instead you try to incite a flame war with me.

I am tired of it. Absolutely tired of it. People here LOVE to make enemies with me when my opinions suddenly don't line up to others. Instead of just taking a step back and thinking, "I don't agree with them, whatever." people get offended over every word. Last time I checked, Final Fantasy XIV was an MMO, and there were millions of players.

There has to be many more thoughts, and minds. So when you don't agree with someone, do your self a favor, and LET IT GO. Constantly getting flustered, and playing witch hunt-like games is not only highly unproductive, but it also shuns people out of the community.

[ErryK]

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I feel you are being quite dramatic and "over-the-top" about this situation. People are allowed to suggest what they would like, devs are also allowed to ignore those suggestions regardless of if 100 were posted in a day, or 1 was posted in a day... so in my opinion, this thread didn't need to exist, at all.

Also, the reason why people are posting your topics in here is because you are contradicting yourself, you are telling, or rather ironically, suggesting that people stop posting suggestions to the dev team, yet you posted one less than a month ago. People won't take that positively, no one would, because that basically says "You can't do this but I can.", it doesn't look good and you are doing yourself a disservice.

snipPerhaps you didn't consider that after making so many suggestion posts, along with other members of this community, I thought about things a little. I'm allowed to slow down on suggestions if I feel a reason to.

Let me tell you something here that will help you in the future in situations like these. When you are making a lot of suggestions, and then think to yourself, and take the time to think things out and decide you want to slow down on suggestions: just don't post anymore suggestions. This is a forum, not a blog, and with a forum you wholly take into consideration that you will bear the consequences of posting something as trivial as "Stop posting suggestions", it's inane and it's redundant, because you literally just don't need to post anymore if you don't want to give devs suggestions. At the very least, with a blog, you can actually privatize a post or disable comments.

A whole situation over nothing, XIV forums in a nutshell.

[Mugiawara]

I would also like to add that the way people are negatively linking my topics is petty, and sad. You shouldn't pressure people just because you think their opinion is odd, or doesn't align with you. Yeah, its easy to make fun of me, because I want our characters bodies to have a little more realism i.e muscle sliders, and more obvious nipples, but its also stooping quite low. You made those posts knowing that it would be easy for people to make fun of me for those opinions.

Well since I'm the only one who posted anything you are acting hysterical.
No one's doing nothing but you ain't going to be sitting here acting like you're not red-handed doing anything.
ErryK basically said it. I linked that because you do the same dang thing meanwhile you want the rest of us to cease it.
If you feel so strongly about suggestions threads, then you stop too.
This forum is crazy and everything, but I'm sure the Devs pick out the good and not so good idea's.
You know, without all of us trying to come together and make this game better than this is, especially in 1.0 and thanks to Legacy players and some others...
This game would of been gone and dead, shut down and never to be revived since the moment all servers were closed.
But don't be sitting here saying "We need them to do this and that." Okay, meanwhile they encourage us to come on here and give idea's or feedback and everything else.
If I could praise one thing about this game, the devs honestly TRY to listen to us for the most part, or try to chime in and take suggestions into consideration.

Without us as a whole community, this game wouldn't be where it is today.
So I actually thank the devs for listening to us some of the time so we can all make this game good and last a long time.
So the more suggestions the better.
Minus the Cash Shop ones because I honestly think people are picking nerves at that point...but anyways yea.

[DamianFatale]

I am not acting hysterical. I am sick of people attacking my opinions. I know people don't like me on these forums, because I've seen the what people say about my posts. I've felt the impact of their bullying. What I've learned is that once I've been made a target there is nothing can do. Fine, have what you want, I'm just going to stop participating in these forums now.

[Frowny]

I am not acting hysterical. I am sick of people attacking my opinions. I know people don't like me on these forums, because I've seen the what people say about my posts. I've felt the impact of their bullying. What I've learned is that once I've been made a target there is nothing can do. Fine, have what you want, I'm just going to stop participating in these forums now.

Use the ignore list feature, it is how I dealt with a few o/