PoTd Fixed party suggestion : FL101 Check point

[Airget]

That's not really a challenge though, put that rule from PotD into other content, for instance say you wiped on A12s, now you have to rerun A1s-A11s. Wiping in WC, go back to VA. They can keep the 1 death and you're out rule that's a good idea, but put it back to 101. After all, you earned your way into 101, why go back to 51 where you have a immense gear advantage and faceroll everything?

Apples to oranges, it's like asking why are 4-man dungeons easy and 8-man savage so hard. It's because the content was designed with this in mind, to be this punishing for failure and to have to work up towards that goal again if you ended up losing. Savage content is designed to just be challenging boss encounter to overcome, POTD is a 4-man challenging content that is designed to be punishing in that one slip-up or chain of events and you could lose everything.

Asking to tone it down would pretty much be admitting to Yoshi that the players don't know what they want, because they keep asking for something challenging but not "challenging", they actually want "Challenging that they can beat" but then when they beat that challenge they go back and complain how it's to easy now. It's quite the cycle, there is no need to reduce the punishing factor of POTD because each run is a learning experience, as you do better you realize the ticks behind each mob and better means of overcoming the bosses. You end up with more items on hand to use in difficult moments and understand how you can manipulate rage, lust, witch, resolution in ways to reduce the amount of mobs you have to kill per floor. You learn how to manipulate the sight/safety in such a way that if you play it right on the last set of 10 floors you would only need to worry about 3 floors with traps.

You learn if someone steps on a trap that it only aggros them, if you don't panic and move back you can eliminate the risk of wiping when you are low on items and raise them and then take them out one by one.

POTD should not be looked at something where you see the punishing factor and beg for it to be "easier to handle" it shoudl be seen as self-reflection with each failure you learn something new and with your 99/99 gear things become easier.

At 99/99 even just 1 person with 3 others, POTD 51-100 can be cleared in about 2hrs. From 101-151 you could possibly clear them out on an average 35-40 mins for about 3hrs. And from the last 10, yea it could take the whole hr or 50 mins for a total of about 4hrs leaving you with 9hrs to progress from 51-200. So while yes it took you 14hrs to progress that far, it only took that long because you aren't use to those floors yet.

As you master POTD and understand how to use the items in a micro-managing way and you don't hesitate to use safety/sight as needed to speed up the floors along with witch to kill treasure rooms, combo with fortune to increase loot chances and affluence(treasure on next floor) item strategically, you can hit lucky chains in which you have more Rages than you know what to do with and can just run through floors because you are more familiar with the content and have learned how to manipulate the items to speed up the dungeon crawling.

[Jetstream_Fox]

snip

I'm well aware on how PotD was built and what it was intended for, however a challenge is not repeating something you know you have mastery of, going back to floor 51 is just an attempt on SE to ensure players have a decent pool of players to be matched with in order to progress. You're not growing in skill for going back to floor 51 with 99/99, running through bosses that are FATE level of difficulty, if you wiped on floor 170 from the boss because of it's mechanics redoing story based levels isn't helping you understand a boss fight on a set of optional floors. A player that has access to 101 would already know how items and traps work as they have seen it previously for 100 floors, so you're not learning here on how to manage items or traps, it's a development choice that honestly has no real benefit to redoing once one has proven capable of handling.

[MomomiMomi]

it's a development choice that honestly has no real benefit to redoing once one has proven capable of handling.

It does have benefit, you just don't like it.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Snip.

Actually all the bosses in 110 through 190 save for 150 boss are all buffed versions of the floor-100 bosses and maintain all their major mechanics. If you are wiping on any of them due to mechanics rather than a dps check practicing on the weaker version would be a great way to improve.

Floors 101+ are also tuned with the expectation that a group starting them already has a fair number of pomanders stored up.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Actually all the bosses in 110 through 190 save for 150 boss are all buffed versions of the floor-100 bosses and maintain all their major mechanics. If you are wiping on any of them due to mechanics rather than a dps check practicing on the weaker version would be a great way to improve.

Floors 101+ are also tuned with the expectation that a group starting them already has a fair number of pomanders stored up.

I'm aware that they're the same, I was stating that if you encountered any mechanic within 101 that you didn't already deal with in 1-100 it doesn't make sense to practice the things you already know how to handle. It's better to practice what you don't know that way in the event you have to deal with them you can accordingly. For instance if you play a fighter practicing against a zone heavy character wouldn't help you prepare for a rush down character. Alternatively playing on hard doesn't prepare you for extreme, as things might react to situations differently within the new difficulty bracket.

[FoxyAreku]

I'm well aware on how PotD was built and what it was intended for, however a challenge is not repeating something you know you have mastery of, going back to floor 51 is just an attempt on SE to ensure players have a decent pool of players to be matched with in order to progress.

You can't do 101+ in a matched party so this is not true.