To the Devs: PvP Reward Ideas. [Feast Season Rewards]

[Lexia]

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Maybe if the game revolved around PVP but it doesn't seems more like a afterthought stuck in a very small % of the player base that does do it.

[Nirokun]

I want exclusive rewards without participating in the community event.

As far as cheating goes, nobody likes that. Especially PVP cheating, we HATE THOSE PEOPLE even more than the casuals who feel entitled to our stuff. Instead of asking for rewards because cheaters are somehow getting them, ban the cheaters and allow honest players to continue challenging themselves to win.

As far as PVE world firsts, I would rather they get rewarded with something special on their side to prove they are the best. Don't take away the competition and rewards that fuel them, encourage it.

I don't know how else to tell you that there should be some awe-factor in the game, something great and meaningful. The Feast is providing that (though many would say the rewards are lack-luster), but you seem hell-bent on tearing it to shreds. I think what you're asking for is unfair to the combatants and participators in the formal community event.

[Gravton]

The rewards should be exclusive. It rewards the best players in the competition. It also inspires other players to try harder.

What your asking for are participation trophies. Worse actually. You have already expressed you have no intrest in the feast. You would rather get tokens to buy it. Rewarded for not even participating. How would you grind for your tokens? How long would it take for you to justify win trading to farm tokens. "It's not hurting anyone, we're just grinding tokens" or worse yet, queuing and not even trying to win, just to grind tokens.

This kind of behavior is barely acceptable if you're a child, if your older than 14 then complaining about not getting a partipation trophy is just sad. You don't get a super bowl ring by grinding flag football. You want it? Go get it.

I really don't understand the comparison between raiding and pvp, as if they were related in any way. But fine, lets draw that comparison. First off, a raid isn't a competition, it's content. You may race other players to complete it first or the fastest but it's still something everyone is allowed to complete. You want to take the rewards away? Then what would be the reason for doing old content? I joined WoW three expansions deep and no one wanted to help do anything because you couldn't get any rewards. That was a broken system. PvE doesn't get limited time events? Didn't we just have one? I missed the power ranger event, how do I go about doing that now? Here's another comparison. The ilevel on pvp stuff is 205 pve is 270 how many patch cycles is that without new pvp rewards? How many 4 man and 8 man dungeons are there? How many 4 and 8 man maps does pvp have? Yeah, when start making the comparison it starts to get a little lop-sided doesn't it?

Also you guys should really try to get on the same page. Some of you are saying that pvp has such a small population but the only reason we have pvp is cause SOOOO many people asked for it?

Let's not pretend that raiders raid for the fun of raiding and the gear. I've never once heard of a raider that stopped raiding after they got the mount.

[Grimmel]

I don't know how else to tell you that there should be some awe-factor in the game, something great and meaningful. The Feast is providing that (though many would say the rewards are lack-luster), but you seem hell-bent on tearing it to shreds. I think what you're asking for is unfair to the combatants and participators in the formal community event.

Gating vanity rewards is unfair when this game's base design is to include everyone and give everyone an equal opportunity to gain rewards. People are given the option to get something, yes same thing goes for PvP seasons, but only 100 people per data center can win the rewards offered. That is unfair and secluding a majority of the player base who wants to participate but knows there is no chance in hell they can due to the randomity of players they get matched with and the major requirements needed to even consider being placed in the top 100. People are required in seasonal match groups to have their PvP abilities and that takes days of constant farming to get to the point where you have them all. In PvE players are required to be the best geared and know their roles. But the thing is, PvE content gets outdated and then it gets easier to faceroll through while still passing out rewards like mounts, pets, and vanity.

PvP at this moment unbalances the fairness of this game's reward system by shelling out exclusive rewards that only 600 people in the entire game can get. These people can also obtain top 30 in the group ratings earning twice the rewards. Someone in the solo rankings who is in the #1 slot of Aether Data Center is also in the Top 10 of the group rankings. That to me is highly unfair. Explain to me how that is fair?

Aether Data Center is home to more than half the games NA/EU population, so Top 100 people in solo ranking is an extremely small fraction of Aether Data Centers extremely large population.

Edit: It's also extremely belittling to write your own ideas of what you think I'm saying to the point you're being extremely rude. I don't alter your quote posts to try to be harassing to you so don't alter mine.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

No. Please see Hermes' Shoes and legacy tattoos for things you won't get without playing at a specific time under specific conditions. People with your attitude just want everything available elsewhere, through an event or the cash shop. I make plenty of money to buy what I want IRL, but this has merit/skill attached to it, dont cheapen it with your attitude.

Cash shop players get moogle mounts and zantetsuken emotes, I can't get that through PVP. And I'm not complaining.

I'm a raider so your assumption about my attitude is incorrect. Raiding takes skill to achieve and our stuff becomes easier to get in time so why shouldnt yours?, i have yet to see a good answer to my question as to why pvp is more entitled to exclusive items.

[IgnisKat]

At least make them available to get with tokens. The queue for Frontline is terrible, but if we had some new things we could get besides weapons, gear, and materia, that queue would go much faster!
More people would be willing to do it if they had something to go for like mounts and minions.

Edit - The queue time for Frontline can take up to several hours. Even after we got the new map, the time in the Duty Finder was still a good 2 to 3 hours before it would pop. Players need another reason to do it besides achievements and gear that is mostly only used for glamour.

[jameseoakes]

Also you guys should really try to get on the same page. Some of you are saying that pvp has such a small population but the only reason we have pvp is cause SOOOO many people asked for it?

The main issue to me is they seem to be only pushing one PVP mode which isn't very fun and they seem to have no interest in providing support for a wide PVP player base by only catering to a very small number of players they aren't really going to increase the number of people playing it.

[Nirokun]

Triggered

I mean seriously, the last one was it was a summary of your point. If you're upset about me reading between the lines and summarizing your point, dont complain about me laying bare your point of view. It is, simply, entitlement. Plenty of people are upset at even the notion of making merit-based achievement rewards available to all.

Anyways, you are contradicting yourself. Everyone DOES IN FACT have the same opportunity to obtain the rewards, but not all can, due to the nature of competition and prizes for winning. Not everyone can win, but everyone can try. That you expect to get a prize for participating is entitlement, plain and simple. The "special" prizes are for players who win, and for those players alone, that is explicitly stated. They are not owed to you, nor is a separate system for obtaining them owed to you simply due to the fact that only 100 copies per data center (or 10, or 1, depending on the reward) or that your data center is well-populated (see the housing complains on populated servers). And certainly the system is fair, because anyone can try.

Winning in both the Solo and Team's events is completely acceptable, because the rewards are different. The fact that it is usually the same people winning both has more to do with the skill of the players involved than anything else; if you play PVP, you know those players are very skilled, lessening your chances of winning against them, but they are equally as likely to be on your team as the opponent's, so long as you dont occupy the same role.

[Grimmel]

Have fun figuring out what you did wrong, Nirokun.

[Nirokun]

I'm a raider so your assumption about my attitude is incorrect. Raiding takes skill to achieve and our stuff becomes easier to get in time so why shouldnt yours?, i have yet to see a good answer to my question as to why pvp is more entitled to exclusive items.

I'm perfectly fine with PVE having exclusive items. And nobody said raiding doesn't take skill (afaik), just that it gets easier with increasing iLvl because the content is static or gets nerfed. PVP is not like that at all.