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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Two key points here

    Point one
    The game works around players playing PotD with 100% skill and effort on 101+ you cannot at anytime prep for a dc ever, it is not a game mechanic, a tank can't tank dc issues, a healer can't esuna, leeches, or exalted detriment the datacenter or ISP of it's connection debuff, nor can a BRD wardens paean the connection debuff, and dps can't dps fake traffic flooding the server in the event of a ddos. Connection issues aren't game mechanics, never ever in history would a boss be built around players fighting the server or cable companies to ensure they beat said content. Developing content based on such a uncontrollable factor is down right idotic and plain ridiculous. Mechanics are things players can control in front of them and adjust accordingly, something we learn from in order to obtain a common goal.

    Point two
    Official game tournaments can be restarted if game breaking bugs are discovered, here is a excerpt taken from the official Call of Duty tournament rules:

    "e. Game Breaking Bugs. If a Player finds that a Game Breaking Bug is occurring, they should notify a Tournament Official immediately. If the Tournament Official is able to confirm that a game breaking bug has occurred, they will determine whether or not the affect Round/Game should be restarted, the Game win should be awarded to a Team, or the conditions under which the Round/Game should be resume. List of Game Breaking Bug below:

    i. Character hasn't respawned after the proper amount of time.

    ii. Character isn't properly arming or disarming the bomb.

    iii. Character isn't properly picking up or capturing the flag.

    iv. Character isn't properly able to Aim Down Sights (ADS).

    v. The Uplink Satellite hasn't reset after 15 seconds of being unreachable"

    https://www.callofduty.com/esports/s...mps-2016-Rules

    Two rules involving mechanical issues that restart a tournament match at EVO

    "Once replacement equipment is obtained, the player is given the rest of the round to configure their buttons and test the new equipment. If the player gains an undue advantage by doing so (e.g. charging an abundance of super meter), they must forfeit the Game.
    A player may opt to switch out equipment between Games at no penalty. When this occurs, the player will be given ample time to configure his buttons before the next Game begins."

    http://evo.shoryuken.com/tournament-rules/#equipment

    A nice little bit on Madden tournaments

    "301.9 Disconnects and Other Stoppages in play In the event of a disconnect or stoppage in play, it is the responsibility of both competitors to reach out to tournament admins for a resolution. Disconnections are not automatic grounds for a loss unless determined by an administrator or if one competitor explicitly forfeits.

    If a participant unintentionally disconnects from the game and is not able to reconnect to the game, then tournament officials will determine if the game state can be restored to a similar point. If the game cannot be restored, then the tournament administrator will use their judgement on how to restart the game.

    301.9a Example: If a participant intentionally disconnects from the game and is not able to reconnect to the game, then a loss will be given to the participant. It is at the sole discretion of the tournament administrator as to what constitutes an intentional disconnect.

    301.9b Example: A player unintentionally disconnects at the 2:20 mark of the 3rd quarter with possession of the ball on the 50-yard line. The score of the game was 20-14. A tournament administrator instructs the game to resume in the 1st quarter with the implied score to be 20-14 and the implied quarter to be the 3rd. The clock will be run down to 2:20 with possession established as close to possible around the 50 yard line. The competitors will play until halftime to determine the winner."

    http://www.maddenchallenge.com/rules

    So you really want to sit here and tell me SE couldn't do anything about resetting progress due to bugs or dcs? But Madden, EVO, and Call of Duty can and do in the middle of tournaments where actual money is on the line? If you or anyone can sit there and tell me that losing because of dc issues is still acceptable when a joke of a game like Madden let's it players resume due to connection issues, read that a million times MADDEN AND EA HAD THE BRAINS TO UNDERSTAND DISCONNECTIONS SHOULDN'T DETERMINE OUTCOMES OF GAMES. But good old SE racking in that 15 a month can put out content with such a flawed system and people defend it?

    Yeah, becaue real life tournaments with physical prizes in one Location (LAN Environment) with physically present "tournament admins" are almost the same as MMORPGs. Your point is very weak.
    And the online elimination at madden was limited to only 128 players, if not they would have not been able to suggest that "both competitors reach out to tournament admins for a resolution" if problems occur.

    But yeah, maybe SE should add PotD admins, who examine every dubious wipe and let you start at the same floor, if it was a DC. I assume the sub will raise to 100$/month then to afford those 20,000 admins.


    How does your wonderful Madden manage DCs in the mentioned "Draft Champions Ranked Ladders" where the 128 players who are allowed to participate in the Online Elimination came from?
    -> They don't. As in almost any other competitive online game you lose if you DC. If you DC regulary you won't get high in ranked ladder systems. Deal with it.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 11-08-2016 at 06:31 PM.