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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    I'm not so sure about that - by that logic patches wouldnt have been possible before the cash shop. New content was always released and I remember them saying that the issue wasnt so much money but rather that they couldnt find new devs?
    Yes, we got more stuff - and yeah, cash shop might have played a role in it - but I'd like to remind you that we got new hairstyles etc. etc. before that too.
    Of course patches were possible, but we do get much more content now. Since you mention hairstyles, we used to get 1 new hairstyle for most races, except the patch's chosen race that would get two. Lately, we've been getting 4 hairstyles per patch, among tons of other things. We are getting more ingame stuff now per patch because the game is getting more income, and I don't know about you, but I'd rather have 4 hairstyles per patch than 1.

    Also, Yoshida did state (as far as I remember) that maintaining and improving a game wasn't very possible with merely the monthly fee. Knowing this, I guess if FFXIV is getting more money it's because of the merchandise, and that includes exclusives made for the cash shop. So, whether or not you use the cs, you are STILL enjoying the benefits of the extra money SE is getting. Yet people complain about that which is giving them MORE content.

    The problem is that nothing is ever good enough for people; they want much more, they want it much faster, yet they want it all without having to pay more themselves, and they'll never acknowledge all the nice things they're getting. It's quite absurd.
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    Last edited by Clover_Blake; 11-07-2016 at 11:33 PM.

  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    Also, Yoshida did state (as far as I remember) that maintaining and improving a game wasn't very possible with merely the monthly fee. Knowing this, I guess if FFXIV is getting more money it's because of the merchandise, and that includes exclusives made for the cash shop. So, whether or not you use the cs, you are STILL enjoying the benefits of the extra money SE is getting. Yet people complain about that which is giving them MORE content.
    We have no proof either way. Both sides of the argument are only guessing at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    Also, Yoshida did state (as far as I remember) that maintaining and improving a game wasn't very possible with merely the monthly fee. Knowing this, I guess if FFXIV is getting more money it's because of the merchandise, and that includes exclusives made for the cash shop. So, whether or not you use the cs, you are STILL enjoying the benefits of the extra money SE is getting. Yet people complain about that which is giving them MORE content.
    That is actually reasonable, as i can see that, it's the same issues with Movie theaters, they can't sustain it on move ticket sales alone so they overprice the snacks and popcorn, to keep up, however. in this games case it's starting to get to many exclusives, like i predicted would happen like a year ago...

    and people like my self are questioning why they can't just add them both ingame as a reward as well, instead of cash shop only. people will buy them either way because it does not require any work. but they are slowly going down this path of only in cash shop.
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  4. #74
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    Cash shop...
    i prefer to pay a higher sub than using my money in cash shops.
    Many things on the cash shop could be added to content in the game.
    Even glamour dresses could be drop from primals or last boss of dungeons even if you get no stats.
    All those mounts,clothes could be goals in game to obtain by farming content.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiaShan View Post
    XIV 2.0/3.0 has a lot more outfits than XIV1.x/FFXI,
    & you got beautiful CG movies, a lot more cutscenes, upgraded graphic engine, while paying same sub fees
    we are just asking for few sets to be add in cash shop, you still have many choices in-game

    and because we cash shop buyers, you got Europe servers & 3x budget for next expansion
    Aren't you thankful?.......
    Oh well, I bought almost every OST and plushies/figurines from the FFXIV and most of the FF series CE since I'm a collector, shipment costs is almost the cost of the plushie, meaning the odin figurine costs 270$ after shipment, my carbuncle costs 78-85$ after shipment, and FF XV UCE which costs 500$ here(sure some of ffxiv funds went into FFXV) since the japanese currency is very strong now.

    Surely I am entitled to my opinion too? Maybe I should make a thread " SE PLEASE IMPLEMENT GACHA WINGS IN CS". In-fact everyone should be extremely thankful to me and no one should have an opinion of me because I'm helping the game. Yes I am guilty of purchasing from the cash shop for both my partner and myself, but it doesn't mean I should be tactless and be like " I DON'T MIND YUGIRI OUTFIT FOR 50$ IF IT'S ACCOUNT WIDE, BECAUSE I PAID 108$ FOR 6 CHARACTERS - MORE OUTFIT IN MOG STATION". Since I'm paying 500$ for the FFXV UCE why don't I ask that the KH3 UCE should be priced higher because, why not? You see my point?

    You're the kind of player who plays too much P2W games where you think because you spend you have the right of entitlement. Sorry truth is you don't, I'm currently subbing for my partner and I brought about 20 people with me to this game, You honestly think SE would give me VIP treatment?

    Do you know what I used to tell my friends when I brought them here? This " I'm glad this is so much better than our P2W game, No regional locked items by shanda(if you didn't know CN FFXIV is published by shanda the same as our previous P2W game), developers who listens, better community and a fairly reasonable cashshop where items are between 5-12$, you can mostly work for the things you want in-game" Right now I'm eating my words.

    Well obviously this is nothing compared to the game we came from where you'd need maybe 5000-6000 USD to gear for raids and 600-700 on gacha boxes for EQ with stats.

    Earlier when I mention I was hoping to not hear a half-baked answer I meant something like this lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiaShan View Post
    Again, glamour/housing are the true end game in this game
    they are the REAL game in this game, (adventures? working on something? char progression? player relationship? challenging contents? what are you talking about?)
    The cash shop YEAH you really should try it for yourself, it's fun LOL
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    Last edited by OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN; 11-08-2016 at 10:19 AM.

  6. #76
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    pls dont mention gachapon you will start giving them ideas ; _ ;
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by BakaChin View Post
    Why should the way he plays the game impact yours? if he chooses to play the way he does then leave him be. He just like everyone else that plays this game is a paying member, just like yourself, so whatever he decides to do with his sub and with the cash shop is all up to him.
    It affects those of us who enjoy costumes but don't want to have to spend an arm and a leg on top of sub to get the pretty things for our characters.
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    I am with @LiaShan even when I didn't spent $18 x 6 on same dress. I have a lot of the cash shop Items ingame (with only 1 char since it's my only one) I may not have the amount of money others have but I find that I really enjoy this game and I enjoy a lot to see my character in different outfits and even when I almost never take minions outside i have purchase some also. It's a way to support the game and I think it is not like if we spent $20 - $25 usd extra on the game it's gonna go to someone else's pocket. It is not like government. The money spent here comes back here as content and quality one. So as long as I play this game and I still enjoy it I'll be on the cash shop buyers side.

    On the - we don't want to have to spent another X sum of usd on top of our sub. If the items on the cash shop are not unique or exclusive 1 of 2 things will happen.
    Option 1 - No one will care about purchasing them. Why would anyone would? Convenience? Not enough reason for me.
    Option 2 - Those that won't buy it anyways will start crying because they are not super easy to obtain (or what's the point on getting them as convenience?).

    At the end I think it is like everything in life. You can't get it all. And if you want it all you have to be ready to pay the price. Now we need more people complaining about not having access to the collector edition items via game play.
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    Last edited by Varacolaci; 11-08-2016 at 01:06 PM.

  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varacolaci View Post
    It is not like government. The money spent here comes back here as content and quality one.
    And you know this how? So far no one here seems to have access to Square's financial distribution information. At a guess, some of the funds come back, but also at a guess the funds are distributed among Square's other projects (like government).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    It affects those of us who enjoy costumes but don't want to have to spend an arm and a leg on top of sub to get the pretty things for our characters.
    Couldn't the same be said for people who don't have all the time in the world to grind for it as well? What everyone seems to miss is everyone is saying the same thing. This is why there is no winner here and these topics need to die. :c seriously.
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