Why do people beg for cash shop stuff?

[Kaurie]

Yet we know the following:

1.) People use the cash shop
2.) The next expansion has a higher budget than the last one

Aside from not liking the cash shop, do you have any reason to conclude that it hasn't helped the game financially?

This line of reasoning is similar to:

1.) Someone unsubbed from FFXIV
2.) Someone subbed to WoW

Conclusion: Game is dying and everyone is flocking from FFXIV to WoW.

While it is a possibility based on the information, it's hardly enough information to draw the conclusion.

[SessionZero]

I would hazard a guess that the cash shop had little to do directly with the increased budget for Stormblood. More likely SE top brass looked at sub numbers and the like and decided to allocate more resources to funding the expansion. Cash shop funds likely went in every which direction - possibly some to Stormblood but I don't think the cash shop itself had any major impact on budgeting for the new expac.

[Laerune]

People beg for items to be added to the cash shop:

1. They have disposable income, so they prefer to buy ingame items then spend it on something else.
2. They do not want to do stuff ingame to earn it, so they pick the easy route which is to buy it via the Mog Station. (glamour items requires the player to have a high level crafter, mounts and minion will require that player defeat hard boss and hope that they win the item...etc)
3. They think the developers wont make these items, if they arent sold via Mog Station. Higher odds of items being made if Square Enix can make more money is a reason why they beg for the item to be added in the Mog Station.
4. They know that players hate it when they ask for items to be put in the Mog Station, so they make threads about the Mog Station, so they can troll other players.


Pick one.

[PharisHanasaki]

Because if you want extra retainers, you have technical limitations. But if you are ready to pay extra 2$ - sure, no problem.

Asking for extra retainers doesn't mean they will be adding one for just you, it means allowing every single account access to it, which represents a huge impact on storage. VS asking you to pay $2 where they only have to allocate extra space for you (and you're basically covering for that).

[PharisHanasaki]

It would be that simple if XIV was the only game being produced by Square Enix. However, as it stands, that money could be going into any number of projects - not necessarily back into XIV.

Same thing happened with previous FF's revenues. They funded FFXIV, which wasn't cheap btw.
I'm not against this being done. It anything it means they aren't dropping this game soon, and I don't mind it as long as the CS items don't become must-have items in that they start granting ridiculously goods stats and the like. And I can keep deciding on whether to buy them or not.

[ReplicaX]

Same thing happened with previous FF's revenues. They funded FFXIV, which wasn't cheap btw.
I'm not against this being done. It anything it means they aren't dropping this game soon, and I don't mind it as long as the CS items don't become must-have items in that they start granting ridiculously goods stats and the like. And I can keep deciding on whether to buy them or not.

Just to add:

It's well known that FFXI subscriptions helped fund both XIII and XIV 1.0-2.0. 1.0 and XIII both having longer than anticipated Dev Cycles and its extremely expensive in-house Crystal Tools Engine Development for both titles. XI revenue saved SE during an extremely rocky era.

[Ametrine]

Just to add:

It's well known that FFXI subscriptions helped fund both XIII and XIV 1.0-2.0. 1.0 and XIII both having longer than anticipated Dev Cycles and its extremely expensive in-house Crystal Tools Engine Development for both titles. XI revenue saved SE during an extremely rocky era.

Also Agni's Philosophy and the forever lost to us original PS3 version of VersesXIII. (Boy, I can't wait for us to move on from Noctis's story and bring in a new project X.x...)

It'd be stranger to me to think that FFXI and FFXIV (and perhaps DQ's MMO) weren't having part of their earned funds funneled into other SE projects.

[LiaShan]

People beg for items to be added to the cash shop:

1. They have disposable income, so they prefer to buy ingame items then spend it on something else.
2. They do not want to do stuff ingame to earn it, so they pick the easy route which is to buy it via the Mog Station. (glamour items requires the player to have a high level crafter, mounts and minion will require that player defeat hard boss and hope that they win the item...etc)
3. They think the developers wont make these items, if they arent sold via Mog Station. Higher odds of items being made if Square Enix can make more money is a reason why they beg for the item to be added in the Mog Station.
4. They know that players hate it when they ask for items to be put in the Mog Station, so they make threads about the Mog Station, so they can troll other players.


Pick one.

The real issue is not cash shop, it's the game content itself & the majority of the player base.

People want easy,fast leveling, people want nice weapons & armors when they are leveling.
people love the beautiful LV1 outfits and they want more.
people like the voice acting & they want more (full voice)
people want SOLO/DF so they can complete dungeons quests easy & fast,

People hate the REAL works like FFXI, people don't care "adventures","player interactions" or whatever.
People picked FFXIV2.0/3.0/WOW over FFXI/FFXIV1.2/EQ because they are a lot easier.
In such Theme park, and some people still think they are working on something? LMAO

You choose this game, you like this game, but to support your deluxe, fast paced game play,
SE had to make a deluxe Cash shop, so they have the money to release more face paced contents for you.

The CS buyers are not the cry babies/beggars,
The players who ENJOY the current game & bash the cash shop buyers are the true babies/beggars
Understand?

[Welsper59]

This line of reasoning is similar to:

1.) Someone unsubbed from FFXIV
2.) Someone subbed to WoW

Conclusion: Game is dying and everyone is flocking from FFXIV to WoW.

While it is a possibility based on the information, it's hardly enough information to draw the conclusion.

To be honest though, the unlinking of helpful funding that the cash shop offers to this game is unreasonable. Working in a business level and having zero exposure to video games, someone of that nature could logically draw the conclusion that more money coming in, means more money being (potentially) available to the maker. It's not a secret to anyone with some baseline business knowledge to know that companies commonly pool their resources, regardless of where it comes from. Nor is it a secret that they will be more willing to invest (encumber) greater numbers to the budget of a product that has proven potential to turn a profit.

In this case, drawing the conclusion that successfully making money/profit for a company doesn't mean it helps them, is one of pure ignorance. Saying it does help is a conclusion based on a system and practical textbook practice, rather than something completely unknown, like figuring out what someone will specifically do with their time and money when they quit the game. While it's not a 100% guarantee that it's the reason for things like a better budget, it's definitely a far more sound argument to say it helps rather than does nothing at all. It's just... poor business if it didn't help, as in a business that will file for bankruptcy within its first year type of poor.

[LiaShan]

The real issue is not cash shop, it's the game content itself & the majority of the player base.

People want easy,fast leveling, people want nice weapons & armors when they are leveling.
people love the beautiful LV1 outfits and they want more.
people like the voice acting & they want more (full voice)
people want SOLO/DF so they can complete dungeons quests easy & fast,

People hate the REAL works like FFXI, people don't care "adventures","player interactions" or whatever.
People picked FFXIV2.0/3.0/WOW over FFXI/FFXIV1.2/EQ because they are a lot easier.
In such Theme park, and some people still think they are working on something? LMAO

You choose this game, you like this game, but to support your deluxe, fast paced game play,
SE had to make a deluxe Cash shop, so they have the money to release more face paced contents for you.

The CS buyers are not the cry babies/beggars,
The players who ENJOY the current game & bash the cash shop buyers are the true babies/beggars
Understand?

Don't get me wrong , I don't like the theme park game play in this game, they are joke.
But I am quite enjoying the outfits/cash shop/glamour/housing LOL
I feel like I am playing something like these:



Again, glamour/housing are the true end game in this game
they are the REAL game in this game, (adventures? working on something? char progression? player relationship? challenging contents? what are you talking about?)
The cash shop YEAH you really should try it for yourself, it's fun LOL