Proportionate Bodies

[AlessaGillespie]

I kind of find it a bit silly to suggest that an hour glass figure (Since that is proportional, as per what OP asked for I believe) is "steep" or something..I mean, that is how I am IRL..what is wrong with wanting to look proportionate in game?

I didn't know we all had to be pencils and hank hill butts or else it goes into Namco territory hahaha we had this in 1.0 and it was just fine. I agree though, if you mean Dead or Alive, yeah no thanks. But our 1.x stuff? That was fine :P

yes lol not something so extreme. Also these look nice!

[Bladesinger]

yes lol not something so extreme.

Some people consider that extreme and offensive. Like I said, the day they decide to implement the "hide player character model" is the day that I'll shut up..

[Mysteltain]

Some people consider that extreme and offensive. Like I said, the day they decide to implement the "hide player character model" is the day that I'll shut up..

The logistics of which are, frankly, impossible. I hope you can imagine the technical and ethical nightmares of hiding player models when, for all you know, you may find yourself in a DF or PF group with someone that you've hidden, or has hidden you. That'd be a trainwreck and a half if you are a healer. And what if they're on a different server? We can't even blacklist people on other servers--what you're asking for goes above and beyond that. So, how about instead of clamoring for an insular community where no one gets offended by anything (an impossible dream, as it is), you simply learn to accept that people have varying tastes that will clash with yours, and accept that that's fine. It's a lot less work for everyone involved, that's for sure.

[Bladesinger]

The logistics of which are, frankly, impossible. I hope you can imagine the technical and ethical nightmares of hiding player models when, for all you know, you may find yourself in a DF or PF group with someone that you've hidden, or has hidden you. That'd be a trainwreck and a half if you are a healer. And what if they're on a different server? We can't even blacklist people on other servers--what you're asking for goes above and beyond that. So, how about instead of clamoring for an insular community where no one gets offended by anything (an impossible dream, as it is), you simply learn to accept that people have varying tastes that will clash with yours, and accept that that's fine. It's a lot less work for everyone involved, that's for sure.

It has been done before and could most certainly happen here..

[Talraen]

The logistics of which are, frankly, impossible. I hope you can imagine the technical and ethical nightmares of hiding player models when, for all you know, you may find yourself in a DF or PF group with someone that you've hidden, or has hidden you.

FFXI has this sytem, albeit more for technical reasons than creative one (I think). Everyone gets their chosen face but all their gear is set to the racial defaults. If they were to create such a system for FFXIV they could just set all sliders and whatnot to racial defaults as well. Not that I'm in favor of such a system or anything, but there's no technical reason you couldn't do it. I'll leave the ethical implications to the philosophers.

[Bladesinger]

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Let me tell you about the "logisitics" of SDKs - They all have a hide option that is tied to a "Shift+F12" by default that is STANDARD on any and all SDKs - FFXIVs SDK is no different so the only work that would ever go into a "hide character model" feature is the UI work neccesary to allow us to utilize it - The script is already there and utilizes a command unknown to us AT THIS TIME - So the logistical side is a non factor - as for the ethical excuse - people should have thought about that before they even started acting or dressing in a manor that offends people of different beliefs and opinions. Most of the time - we'll eat that 30 mins if we run across someone that we simply do not want anything to do with (which we don't usually have to because folks always fill in house)

Nice try tho - The hide player character model is already STANDARD in the SDK, with enough support, would be very simple to implement =)

[Blood-Aki]

There were 4 groups of people listed there - you targeted the Christian for what can only be observed as a bias towards them - To the Japanese, the body form is deadlock and there is nothing wrong with them...

Let me tell you about the "logisitics" of SDKs - They all have a hide option that is tied to a "Shift+F12" by default that is STANDARD on any and all SDKs - FFXIVs SDK is no different so the only work that would ever go into a "hide character model" feature is the UI work neccesary to allow us to utilize it - The script is already there and utilizes a command unknown to us AT THIS TIME - So the logistical side is a non factor - as for the ethical excuse - people should have thought about that before they even started acting or dressing in a manor that offends people of different beliefs and opinions. Most of the time - we'll eat that 30 mins if we run across someone that we simply do not want anything to do with (which we don't usually have to because folks always fill in house)

Nice try tho - The hide player character model is already STANDARD in the SDK, with enough support, would be very simple to implement =)

you are still here, and STILL trying, You are trying so hard... so very hard, it's almost to cringy at this point, Do we need to do this again? Every post you make at this point just makes my head hurt because of your utter nonesense.

[Bladesinger]

you are still here, and STILL trying, You are trying so hard... so very hard, it's almost to cringy at this point, Do we need to do this again? Every post you make at this point just makes my head hurt because of your utter nonesense.

Trying - Not really, the development team is seeing this thread which includes my suggestions and concerns so my mission is complete - you on the other hand might need to go out and get some air for that headache (^-^)

[Blood-Aki]

Trying - Not really, the development team is seeing this thread which includes my suggestions and concerns so my mission is complete - you on the other hand might need to go out and get some air for that headache (^-^)

I can assure you if the development team is looking at this thread they are probably dying of laughter and how silly most of what you said here is, Do not kid your self. Nothing you "suggested" is even remotely worth taking into considiration, because it's a joke.

Look, i'm not going through this with you again. But that was funny to read. so thank you.

[Iromi]

yes lol not something so extreme. Also these look nice!

yea! I really hope in 4.0 they bring back something like that..I miss my bum lol

Inferiority complex!?...

Dead or Alive 5 models are good enough for me, thanks!...

Hehe I am not sure what you are trying to say XD But I do love DoA I just don't want FF to turn into that lmao

Keep my DoA in Doa! ^_^

As a person with a petite body, I appreciate that there is a videogame that actually represents my body type. But, I think the petite bodies should be reserved to certain races. For example, in FFXI, mithra (miqo'te equivalent) were very petite with extremely athletic bodies. They didn't really have a big behind or chest, but other races did. So it would be nice if they did something like that.

But while we're on the topic of proportions... I'm a cosplayer and I enjoy making these costumes. The women have really long legs in this game, yet no one complains about that. Every costume I make, I have to make adjustments for my short legs. But, I'm pretty sure even people with average-sized legs would run into this problem. So why no complaints about the long legs? Because they are 'appealing'?

It's not about wanting proportionate bodies. You just want bodies that fit your ideal. And, that's fine. But let's please call it what it is.

I understand your PoV...but proportionate bodies are classified as "your hips and bust are the same size" aka hour glass. So if OP is asking for bust/bum to match..that is just simply hour glass, which does not exist in XIV...since they took away our butts haha