I'll pay anything for this Chocobo Barding

[Lambdafish]

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Congrats, you found out that the game is successful, and is making lots of money. The cash shop isn't actually affecting anything, only generating part of the profit that you listed (how much of it, we don't know). The knock on effect is SE likes XIV even more, and wants to invest more into it (which was my point), which is why your point about us getting nothing good from the cash shop is wrong.

Also "The EU datacentre wasn't made possible by the additional funds, it was always possible." is wrong. We didn't get an EU datacenter initially because they did not have the resources to implement it. The devs explained what the funds go towards in the opening keynotes of EUfanfest 2014, and unless the devs are flat out lying then this means that the cash shop has indeed helped bring us more content and infrastructure improvements. (Source https://youtu.be/nQ4ywkIbSFk?t=691)

Anyway, I don't want this to turn into a pro/con mogstation debate because I'm against the cash shop too, I'm just saying that there are pros to its existence that should not be ignored.

[whiskeybravo]

Maybe if people stopped whining so much about the cash shop and chuckled more about the OP's enthusiasm then maybe this thread will get the right kind of attention and the dev can eventually get an eye of it.

I kind of agree, "that's my chocobo without anything" definitely made me chuckle. Poor naked chocobo

[DontTouchMyHoHos]

It was an expression. She was so in support of this idea coming to fruition that she mentioned she would be more than willing to pay a hefty sum if that was the only option available as opposed to not getting it at all.

With that said, and similar to that mentioned by the poster above me, this really seems like one of those things that they could just simply add without needing to take the Cash Shop route so you probably don't need to worry about advertising that element, OP.

Those expressions created the cash shop.

[Jandor]

Congrats, you found out that the game is successful, and is making lots of money. The cash shop isn't actually affecting anything, only generating part of the profit that you listed (how much of it, we don't know). The knock on effect is SE likes XIV even more, and wants to invest more into it (which was my point), which is why your point about us getting nothing good from the cash shop is wrong.

I don't care what exact percentage of the profit is generated by the cash shop, it's irrelevant. Most of those links are from before it was implemented. It was raking in enough cash to turn around the fortunes of the company before it was implemented.

& cash shops always affect things. Sleipnir would be a drop from Odin if the cash shop didn't exist, I am 100% confident of that.

Also "The EU datacentre wasn't made possible by the additional funds, it was always possible." is wrong. We didn't get an EU datacenter initially because they did not have the resources to implement it. The devs explained what the funds go towards in the opening keynotes of EUfanfest 2014, and unless the devs are flat out lying then this means that the cash shop has indeed helped bring us more content and infrastructure improvements. (Source https://youtu.be/nQ4ywkIbSFk?t=691)

They're not flat out lying, but they're twisting the truth a bit. They say the profits can be put back into items, vanity, housing, etc. which is true except the game was hugely profitable before optional items, those profits could have been used for the exact same things. Absolutely no reason why that money couldn't have been put back into the game other than that every penny invested back in the game is a penny those in charge don't get to have right now.

E: I don't want to accuse the dev team of being assholes btw, but if the people counting the money said "say *this* or we'll have to think about getting someone who will" to me...

[Ophie-Mio]

Those expressions created the cash shop.

No, they didn't. SE saw a way to make money and took it, the same way that WoW did. As this game used WoW as a template, the cash shop was ALWAYS a twinkle in their eye.

[Atoli]

No, they didn't. SE saw a way to make money and took it

Well, players were very eager to assure SE that it was a good idea off the bat instead of boycotting it to make sure SE dropped the idea again..

What I actually came to say though:
yes I also would like more basic chocobo bardings. I am not willing to pay extra for those though.

[Lunafreya]

You say this, and yet you post stuff like below in another thread that had absolutely no mention of the cash shop prior...



o(^_^; )?

I wouldn't be surprised if others are doing similar as well.

It was a joke actually that someone will come in and say add them to the cash shop.

[Alberel]

Congrats, you found out that the game is successful, and is making lots of money. The cash shop isn't actually affecting anything, only generating part of the profit that you listed (how much of it, we don't know). The knock on effect is SE likes XIV even more, and wants to invest more into it (which was my point), which is why your point about us getting nothing good from the cash shop is wrong.

Also "The EU datacentre wasn't made possible by the additional funds, it was always possible." is wrong. We didn't get an EU datacenter initially because they did not have the resources to implement it. The devs explained what the funds go towards in the opening keynotes of EUfanfest 2014, and unless the devs are flat out lying then this means that the cash shop has indeed helped bring us more content and infrastructure improvements. (Source https://youtu.be/nQ4ywkIbSFk?t=691)

Anyway, I don't want this to turn into a pro/con mogstation debate because I'm against the cash shop too, I'm just saying that there are pros to its existence that should not be ignored.

I'd like to make a distinction between the actual company 'SquareEnix' and Yoshi's team that is developing FFXIV.

Yoshi's team did not have the resources to give us an EU datacentre, but SE, the company, most certainly did. The cash shop did not directly fund the EU datacentre because all money the game makes does not go to Yoshi's team; it goes to the company as a whole. What actually happened was the execs forced Yoshi to implement a cash shop before they would give his team extra funding. In other words, Yoshi wasn't lying, but it was still ultimately just the greed from the money men at SE that required the cash shop in exchange for the EU datacentre.

[Zigabar]

What actually happened was the execs forced Yoshi to implement a cash shop before they would give his team extra funding. In other words, Yoshi wasn't lying, but it was still ultimately just the greed from the money men at SE that required the cash shop in exchange for the EU datacentre.

Source?

On topic, I'd like the barding, but I advocate to have it put directly into the game first.

[SessionZero]

Just want to point out that this "triple budget" that people keep quoting has not been verified. No one can come up with a link to the original report about it.

It wasn't in a report. It was mentioned by Koji Fox during the keynote at the 2016 Vegas FanFest.