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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    Ah man. I'm sure a handful of people loudly yelling on the forum would have convinced them they didn't need more money. If only people didn't disagree with you?

    Darn.
    I'm so upset.
    Not blaming SE for trying to make money, blaming the personn making threads like "I'm willing to pay X among of money so add this in C$ instead of in game cause I want everything now instead of working for it"
    I've learned that asking for instant gratification on these forum is bad, yet so many people ask for thing to be put in C$ instead of reward of some sort like GS or craft or even trial like for Odin's mount an Moogle mog, weird isn't it ?
    Sometimes I wonder why people pay a sub to ask thing to be put in the C$ instead of asking the dev to create content to get those items ^^"
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    Last edited by Celef; 11-02-2016 at 09:22 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Sometimes I wonder why people pay a sub to ask thing to be put in the C$ instead of asking the dev to create content to get those items ^^"
    Sorry but i had to do it ...


    Im completely agree with you as you know, we need a balance between items put in the CS and in the game like 50-50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post


    Im completely agree with you as you know, we need a balance between items put in the CS and in the game like 50-50.
    I just love that man xD


    Or they could do both, add it in GS for example for those who are willing to farm and to C$ for those who do not want to.
    Plus, correct me if I'm wrong but, although the chinese attire was a C$ only for chinese player too, wasn't the korean one part of an event (kind of korean new years eve iirc) they could have add in our game as well ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Or they could do both, add it in GS for example for those who are willing to farm and to C$ for those who do not want to.
    Plus, correct me if I'm wrong but, although the chinese attire was a C$ only for chinese player too, wasn't the korean one part of an event (kind of korean new years eve iirc) they could have add in our game as well ?
    Dunno but yeah, SE needs to rework their CS management.
    Recently a lot of items have been added on the CS, yet people weren't wining that much about it since the chinese dress and her price lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    Dunno but yeah, SE needs to rework their CS management.
    Recently a lot of items have been added on the CS, yet people weren't wining that much about it since the chinese dress and her price lol
    Because for the first time they did something that really bothered them, they add an exclusive not "cosplay" 18$ glamour that was heavely requested but pretty expensive for a not acound wide item soooo, peole wanting it but who could not pafford it got disapointed and came wining ^^"
    When it was just services or mount, most of the player did not care but here we are talking glamour, it's a serious business xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
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    Because offering to pay for something increases the probability you'll get it. Keep in mind, the Chinese dress wasn't free for China either. Why would Square make it obtainable in-game for us? And those mounts you mentioned were never intended for any other purpose but to be cash shop exclusive. People have the misconception all of these items would be made available in-game if only other people would stop asking/buying cash shop stuff when they just wouldn't be made at all. Furthermore, if companies didn't have cash shops and DLC as an option, you can be assured game prices would skyrocket instead. They aren't going to eat the added cost of game development. So if you'd rather pay say, $79.99 for Stormblood instead of $39.99. I guess that's an option. I prefer the ability to opt out of extra costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
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    I know for the China dress wich is why I kept it shut when I discovered they had to pay for it too. I'm more concerned about the korean outfit which was part of an event iirc, event that could have been add to our version.
    People keep saying there is not enought thing to do and don"t seem upset when we loose the opportunity to get more event, I don't get it.

    As I said, if we could have the ability to get those items in game I would stop complaning about CS. I'm getting tired of people saying there is not enought thing to do in that game and yet keep asking for things to be added in CS instead of rewards for things done in the game.
    Man there even is a thread where someone is begging SE to add a barding for 25$ in CS instead of just, you know, ask for a craft recipe or a quest reward.
    I'm against CS as everybody knows and but I would like someone, a pro CS for example explain to me why they keep asking for thing to be put in CS instead of asking things to be add in the game we play :/ ? Not trolling here, just asking a real question and trying to understand.
    I don't understand you guys do you have to much money to be begging SE to take it ? ^^" (I'm not joking, when you read certain posts it's like people are actually begging SE to take their money oO)
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    Last edited by Celef; 11-03-2016 at 01:27 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    I know for the China dress wich is why I kept it shut when I discovered they had to pay for it too. I'm more concerned about the korean outfit which was part of an event iirc, event that could have been add to our version.
    Well thing is...unless SE discloses to us their business dealings in and out with the other versions of the game (China and Korea) then we never know exactly how they run their development for those versions.

    Korea and China versions may own the rights to those dresses and SE had to bargain with them or offer some sort of compensation for them to allow the NA/JP/EU versions of the game to obtain them. Yes SE developed those gearsets, but that doesn't mean that China and Korea versions didn't pay them for the rights to it which means they own it and can control who is allowed to use them beyond that.

    We can make assumptions but its all speculation...also I really doubt those gearsets were going to come to us at all if it wasn't cash shop. Some people would rather have the option to obtain them with some extra fees instead of just never getting them at all. I would be in agreement with that side of it since I would rather have a choice to obtain them instead of no choice, but I mean most people always prefer to get stuff with no extra cost so obviously if that was an option everyone would take it...it just didn't end up that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
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    If I could grind out Sleipnir in-game, I have no reason to pay $24 for it. Hence why they made it cash shop exclusive. As for the cash shop itself, I'm indifferent to it because it doesn't impede my actual gameplay. Personally, I would rather toss money for mounts or outfits I fancy than grind one million MGP. The way I see it, I'm paying for a convenience. In lieu of doing menial chores, I get what I want immediately. Granted, I do think these dresses are overpriced, which is why I've held off buying them for the time being. As for why people ask, it's like I said earlier. Square is far more likely to listen if a person offers to pay for them to include an extra item than if they were to demand it be free.

    But the main reason I do not mind the cash shop is because we're still given plenty of glamour free. Each major patch cycle sees a slew of new glamour. While you might not get a cute dress or badass horse, you'll still have lots to choose from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Not blaming SE for trying to make money, blaming the personn making threads like "I'm willing to pay X among of money so add this in C$ instead of in game cause I want everything now instead of working for it"
    I've learned that asking for instant gratification on these forum is bad, yet so many people ask for thing to be put in C$ instead of reward of some sort like GS or craft or even trial like for Odin's mount an Moogle mog, weird isn't it ?
    Sometimes I wonder why people pay a sub to ask thing to be put in the C$ instead of asking the dev to create content to get those items ^^"
    I think people believe SE is more willing to do something if they'll directly profit off of it. As for why people are willing to pay, many people work long hours or have kids or obligations and consider their time far more valuable than their money. I know I'd rather buy something for $20 than spend five hours grinding for it (though in practice I'll generally do neither).
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