Implications of a Dungeon Finder

[Sephrick]

No one is forcing anyone to use it, roll with an LS or shout for a group in your world.

This is a feature for people with no social skills and won't affect any of us who actually talk to people.

[Frein]

No one is forcing anyone to use it, roll with an LS or shout for a group in your world.

This is a feature for people with no social skills and won't affect any of us who actually talk to people.

You are so naive. SE is implementing a player search similar to FFXI, which would suffice for group building. This DF will kill that method immediately and lead to exactly what is described in the OP.

Even in WoW I used to run instances and raids with my guild, it was only when we were short on a member that we would use the dungeon finder.

So you withdrew into your guild and interacted with the rest of the server only out of necessity? Nice.

[Wolfie]

You are so naive. SE is implementing a player search similar to FFXI, which would suffice for group building. This DF will kill that method immediately and lead to exactly what is described in the OP.

WOW's dungeon finder didn't kill guild and friend dungeon runs. Stop being such a neighsayer.

[Frein]

WOW's dungeon finder didn't kill guild and friend dungeon runs. Stop being such a neighsayer.

I never said it did. It killed your ability to make new friends and build a community.

[Wolfie]

I never said it did. It killed your ability to make new friends and build a community.

No it didn't. I had no problems meeting new people and getting into guilds.

What killed my ability to make friends was how fluid WOW's leveling model was and how characters were completely throwaway things. That's something that's not the case with FFXIV; you don't change characters in this game like you do pairs of socks.

[Synfrag]

The problem with WoW is not the dungeon finder itself but the dungeons. They are so smash and grab that you would have to have naked people running through them to fail. Hopefully, SE does not make that mistake. Besides, far less (not none) asshats play FF than WoW because it's not friendly to stupid people.

As long as we have something similar to FFXI's mission system in our new main story line then random raids are fine with me. Hell, who didn't PUG BCNM/KSNM/ISNM at least occasionally. If you did, then I dare you to tell me you never failed due to someone balls crazy running in thinking they could solo all the scorps (other than a BLM ). Again, as long as the content is a challenge then I am all for it. If it becomes a smash and grab, forget it.

What worries me the most is the stupification of the community through Add-Ons

[Jinko]

The problem with WoW is not the dungeon finder itself but the dungeons. They are so smash and grab that you would have to have naked people running through them to fail. Hopefully, SE does not make that mistake. Besides, far less (not none) asshats play FF than WoW because it's not friendly to stupid people.

COMEON !! we know this is not true.

[Gukswar]

No one is forcing anyone to use it, roll with an LS or shout for a group in your world.

This is a feature for people with no social skills and won't affect any of us who actually talk to people.

This will effect you- When you spend time with people You turn into them- they turn into you-
Most of the time a person pick's up the bad habits- even though you can pick up the good habit as well-
the more people crossword the less players you see in your own server. -------- giving the access to find a dungeon will force players too all use it- hence everyone will start using that instead since it's more convenient- People never know what they got until they lose it- the same reason why every MMO make's EXP grind EASY and Fast- that itself created a big impact on future MMO- Now a day mmo's aren't even mmo anymore- all you do is log in ding 50 fight a boss log out-
Back then mmo meant- Adventure travel explore battle experience!! now MMO means
Log in Don't travel just warp Ding 50 Fight a boss fight a dungeon log out-
This to me is more of a Dota game then an mmo- This is also why sometimes i just prefer to play gimp game such as Legion of legen or Dota---... just because i'am kind of overwhelm that mmo's are no longer explore experience travel socialize and enter a new world of fantasy