So I heard you wanted a Hellhound Mount....well..

[Moomba33]

Welp, there's another PVP exclusive mount I'll never get.

Don't really like the idea of it having limited availability but I can understand SE wanting to switch up rewards between seasons so players don't quit after they've earned everything.

[Blood-Aki]

"its just another reskin" Well its smth not everyone get and there is no hellhound as mount ingame

Well of course not everyone will get it, Most people aren't going to bother with pvp for a FENRIR RESKIN (look at the stance it has) so yes, it is, something like the ADS mount was an actual unique mount, because it was it's own model.

yet so yes unique if you think its just a reskin why complaining?

lol.. i was complaining?

Also those "other mounts" are for everyone reachable which takes no skill. So you say PvPers dont have enough skill for raids and PvP require a lot less skill?

If you honestly think people wacking each other to death in teams is anywhere near raid content, you must have never been outside of roulettes or DF content. Sure there is some learning curves, like anything in this game, but it does not take long to get used to and "master" pvp.

You must have not ever played feast there are enough top PvErs under the top Pvpers. PvP requires more than just following a script like in pve compare healing in savage and healing in 4vs4 ranked feast and you will see what Im talking about.

Right, just gang the healer, there is nothing skillful about that, It's not even close. it's like trying to master jumping jacks.
it's easy to be a "top pvper" when there is a serious lack of competition, it's like being in a town populated by only 20 people, and you're the best gardener. I know you are trying but it's just not the same, sorry.

You will get rekt every game even if you are good at savage healing doesnt matter you will be one of those ppl who dies in the first few secs then come back again and say it does require less skill.

See above, of course everyone will "rekt" the healer, because it's the smart option..does not mean it takes much skill, other then running a lot.

[RobbieH]

it's easy to be a "top pvper" when there is a serious lack of competition

This, i've played a few MMOs and most people who play PVP on them think they're pro if they are on leaderboards, meanwhile if they go to ANY real Esports game, they're nobody.

Healing in Feast isn't that hard when you have classes like AST that can move and heal, or BLM that sleeps, or PLD that stuns for 1 minute, where's the skill in this? Seriously?

Not to mention the LB in the Feast that's pretty much one shot to whoever has the most medals.

[TiaHariberux3]

If you honestly think people wacking each other to death in teams is anywhere near raid content, you must have never been outside of roulettes or DF content. Sure there is some learning curves, like anything in this game, but it does not take long to get used to and "master" pvp.



Right, just gang the healer, there is nothing skillful about that, It's not even close. it's like trying to master jumping jacks.
it's easy to be a "top pvper" when there is a serious lack of competition, it's like being in a town populated by only 20 people, and you're the best gardener. I know you are trying but it's just not the same, sorry.


See above, of course everyone will "rekt" the healer, because it's the smart option..does not mean it takes much skill, other then running a lot.

Reading this already tells me that you never played pvp and have no clue about it. It doesnt take long to "master" pve tbh new raid content gets easier and easier you follow a script and after first kill u just faceroll farm fights.Healing unpredictable dmg while getting interupted and CC thats imo skill sure raiding is too but saying pvp does require alot less is simply wrong. ...So if its so easy then gl. Im out here for now general discussion is just a huge complain section no matter if its event, pvp, cash shop or a grind reward. no matter where u place the rewards ppl complain.

[Alleo]

I am not really sure how this is even good for those that PVP? Its limited that means even if you are dedicated to PVP and played it all the time before that you might still be out of luck of ever getting this..They could make it a PVP wolf marks reward and set the number of marks you need quite high. So it would be reachable for everyone that wants its but still would need work to get it.

Would people be okay if in savage the mount or the gear would be restricted to the first 100 people that beat it (or first 50 people)?

Well who knows maybe the reskin of this will land in the cash shop...because they know a lot of people will want it and most of the players wont get it..with that they create want and bamm its in cash shop in another color somewhere down the line..sorry my cynic side talking.

[TiaHariberux3]

This, i've played a few MMOs and most people who play PVP on them think they're pro if they are on leaderboards, meanwhile if they go to ANY real Esports game, they're nobody.

Healing in Feast isn't that hard when you have classes like AST that can move and heal, or BLM that sleeps, or PLD that stuns for 1 minute, where's the skill in this? Seriously?

Not to mention the LB in the Feast that's pretty much one shot to whoever has the most medals.

Personally I find it quiet amazing how good some healers are which isnt that easy imo. AST is compared to whm kinda meh and blm sleep got nerfed (besides a few blms there are only bad ones in EU/NA). Pld cant stun for 1minute and lb isnt oneshot + got nerfed. Try again bruh

[RobbieH]

I am not really sure how this is even good for those that PVP?

It's a carrot to see if it attracts more people to the Feast.

Personally i gave up on PVP when they removed Rank restrictions from PVP Rewards, and this mount i couldn't care less, but i suppose some people like it so good for them.

Personally I find it quiet amazing how good some healers which isnt that easy imo. AST is compared to whm kinda meh and blm sleep got nerfed (besides a few blms there are only bad ones in EU/NA)

Sleep got nerfed, irrelevant, there's the standard sleep and pvp sleep, so that's two, remove one get sleeped again.

Pld cant stun for 1minute

The 1m was an exaggeration, but i guess you're too slow to understand that, still PLD can spam stun so it makes it very strong in PVP.

lb isnt oneshot + got nerfed. Try again bruh

So you're saying it doesn't one shot people with a ton of medals?

[Blood-Aki]

Reading this already tells me that you never played pvp and have no clue about it. It doesnt take long to "master" pve tbh new raid content gets easier and easier you follow a script and after first kill u just faceroll farm fights.Healing unpredictable dmg while getting interupted and CC thats imo skill sure raiding is too but saying pvp does require alot less is simply wrong. ...So if its so easy then gl. Im out here for now general discussion is just a huge complain section no matter if its event, pvp, cash shop or a grind reward. no matter where u place the rewards ppl complain.

Yes, because all those world first groups first go to pvp and then annouce it to the world, Since it on par with raiding. this entire game is based on a pattern that you have to learn and memorize, the skill comes from your awarness and ability to learn quickly, and all those groups wiping on the same content even tho they know what to expect, should tell you, which is why top raiders are very few, pvp is dealing with real people which for the most part can be unpredictable, but then rely on exploits or "easy" ways of taking down your enemy, i have played pvp in many mmos, and this one was not much different, the style does not change, in a nut shell, lower your opponets health before yours, It's not rocket science.

FFXIV does not have some magical, unique pvp that differs from every other MMO game. it's faceroll boring, which is why i stopped dealing with it. yes it takes "skill" but on a very low tier level that is quick to learn. You want skilled competition? try a fighting game, where actual real skill comes into play.

[TiaHariberux3]

So you're saying it doesn't one shot people with a ton of medals?

The point of the game is to not take "ton of medals" then u dont get oneshotted also you can counter lb etc.

Sleep got nerfed, irrelevant, there's the standard sleep and pvp sleep, so that's two, remove one get sleeped again.

No its not irrelevant cause the sleep is 8sec long and the pvp sleep is 8sec too if its upgraded but they share timers so if u get slept for 8sec (you can get wake up by autoattacks)and u get another sleep its less duration until you get immune. Since every sleep shorter then the first sleep is useless you dont have to remove any of those skills. Also the normal sleep is single target only now.

It's a carrot to see if it attracts more people to the Feast.



The 1m was an exaggeration, but i guess you're too slow to understand that, still PLD can spam stun so it makes it very strong in PVP.

I noticed that it was exaggeration no need to be rude but first of all you can only stun a person 4x before the player gets immune this including the shorter stuns like gap closer from dps in your team etc. so pld who "spam stuns " or blm who "spam sleep" are usually the ones who make u lose but yeah if no one cares about the mount we can delete thread.

[RobbieH]

so pld who "spam stuns " or blm who "spam sleep" are usually the ones who make u lose

If done correctly it can turn things around, both BLM and PLD are very strong in PVP

yeah if no one cares about the mount we can delete thread.

I'm sure some people care, but it's not a "special mount" like for example, Fenrir, Kirin, or the upcoming special Bird in 3.5 that we could be "wow".

Collectors will probably attempt to get it, but it's just another mount that almost no one will use once 4.0 drops, Gordias mount was very hard to get, pretty much everyone who got it used to show it off, now it's A12S mount being displayed for epeen, this is an example that once new mounts drop previous ones will stop being used for the most part, no matter how exclusive they are.

For me the ADS mount is pretty special too, it was part of the first End Game raid, and hard to get even when you can grind it.