What do you think of this? (Making seasonal events not sellable on MB)

[SessionZero]

I remember for a little bit at the beginning of ARR there was a vendor for events like Moonfire and Heavensturn who would sell last year's items for gil. I don't see why that can't be a thing, beyond the want for cash shop revenue from past event items.

That said, Kaurie's post hits it exactly, because once you have the seasonal items there's little incentive to keep doing the event in question.

[Naunet]

I remember for a little bit at the beginning of ARR there was a vendor for events like Moonfire and Heavensturn who would sell last year's items for gil. I don't see why that can't be a thing, beyond the want for cash shop revenue from past event items.

Yup. That's how it worked for the first two Moonfire Faires. Swimsuits were all available on the vendor, including the previous years'.

Then SE decided to double-dip with the cash shop.

[Rakiria]

Yup. That's how it worked for the first two Moonfire Faires. Swimsuits were all available on the vendor, including the previous years'.

Then SE decided to double-dip with the cash shop.

They still sell the items you get during seasonal events, at least the Quest rewards, but only for the ones you got anyway. So you can't just buy event gear for events you never did. That was always a cash shop only thing.

[Naunet]

They still sell the items you get during seasonal events, at least the Quest rewards, but only for the ones you got anyway. So you can't just buy event gear for events you never did. That was always a cash shop only thing.

No. For the first year and a half, old holiday reward items were on a vendor accessible by everyone (even those who were not present for the last one).

Not true. Not all the swimsuits were in 1.0. The striped and summer morning ones were new for the first moonfire event (2013) during ARR. Then on the next year for the 2014 moonfaire there was a vendor that sold the 2013 ARR swimsuits.

Yup, precisely.

Yeah, but Moonfire 2013 was literally the first event of ARR, so it still doesn't change my point too much. SE gave people a "window" of several months after ARR during which you could come back and still not miss anything exclusive. Once ARR was established, any events after that window gave items that wouldn't be reobtainable.

It counters your point so of course you dismiss this. xD

@Alimdia: I agree that selling furniture on the store and making the event furniture in-game not tradeable is a really crappy tactic and not okay.

[Emstidor]

Yup. That's how it worked for the first two Moonfire Faires. Swimsuits were all available on the vendor, including the previous years'.

Then SE decided to double-dip with the cash shop.

It's not double-dipping; the reason they offered those items from a vendor is because they were old 1.0 items, and the devs realized it would be unfair to expect people to have obtained them with all the issues and reputation 1.0 had. Once they moved onto ARR events though, everyone is considered to have had a "fair" chance to obtain it legitimately, so if you missed out, you missed out.

[Ariane]

It's not double-dipping; the reason they offered those items from a vendor is because they were old 1.0 items, and the devs realized it would be unfair to expect people to have obtained them with all the issues and reputation 1.0 had. Once they moved onto ARR events though, everyone is considered to have had a "fair" chance to obtain it legitimately, so if you missed out, you missed out.

Not true. Not all the swimsuits were in 1.0. The striped and summer morning ones were new for the first moonfire event (2013) during ARR. Then on the next year for the 2014 moonfaire there was a vendor that sold the 2013 ARR swimsuits.

[Emstidor]

Yeah, but Moonfire 2013 was literally the first event of ARR, so it still doesn't change my point too much. SE gave people a "window" of several months after ARR during which you could come back and still not miss anything exclusive. Once ARR was established, any events after that window gave items that wouldn't be reobtainable.