Question for a Dev: Why is the new raid gear not dyable since the last two were?

[Shippuu]

Who in their right mind would complain about gear being dyeable??

People didn't complain about it being dyeable. They complained that the only difference between the two sets was that one was just dyeable.

So SE made the two sets different this time. Whether they chose not to make them dyeable this time because they mistook what players were complaining about, or the process of making extra assets to make the two sets visually different came at the cost of them no longer being dyeable.

[Morningstar1337]

At least the weapons are still dyable. Thought now they preety much became the only thing worth getting for glamour once the stats becomes obsolete

[Luxpheras]

Greetings,

Until the release of Alexander: The Creator, the only difference between the gear design for Normal and Savage modes was that the Savage gear was dyeable.

We received a lot of feedback from players globally who said that they'd prefer the gear design between Normal and Savage to be noticeably different, or to have some slight adjustments to differentiate the two, or to do something to help motivate players to approach Savage content.

For this reason, we focused on changing the gear design between the Normal and Savage modes for the Alexandrian gear, and due to this, we were unable to make it dyeable.

However, after introducing the new Alexandrian gear, we received lots of feedback asking to make them dyeable as well. During the "Please Look Forward to It!" panel at the Fan Festival 2016 in Las Vegas, Yoshida mentioned that the dev. team will look to see if this would be possible to make the gear from Alexander: The Creator (Savage) dyeable.

We'll follow up with you all once we have any update on this!

[Lone-wolfe-02]

To be honest wouldn't it being dyeable be better because then it has more potential use for Glamours later?.

Honestly have no idea why you went this route at all Dyeable > non dyeable.

[Lisotte]

To be honest wouldn't it being dyeable be better because then it has more potential use for Glamours later?.

Honestly have no idea why you went this route at all Dyeable > non dyeable.

Because "the same gear, but dyeable" isn't as much incentive for most people as different gear. In Coil lots of people did it for both the gear and the story, in Alex the gear being the same but dyeable was a poor incentive.

[Naunet]

For this reason, we focused on changing the gear design between the Normal and Savage modes for the Alexandrian gear, and due to this, we were unable to make it dyeable.

However, after introducing the new Alexandrian gear, we received lots of feedback asking to make them dyeable as well. During the "Please Look Forward to It!" panel at the Fan Festival 2016 in Las Vegas, Yoshida mentioned that the dev. team will look to see if this would be possible to make the gear from Alexander: The Creator (Savage) dyeable.

This makes NO sense. You have the ability to make gear dyeable. How does making unique armor models preclude making a piece of gear dyeable??

In any MMO worth its salt, ALL gear is dyeable by default. Why is such a simple thing so difficult for your devs? I honestly don't understand it. We should not have to choose between "new armor models" and "dyeable gear". Those are BOTH things we should have. Your dev team should be knowledgeable enough to do so.

[Ametrine]

It has nothing to do with knowledge so much as workload.

You may be surprised to know that the dyes affect the texture work on most gear in this game and that there is a good deal more work involved than just using the bucket tool in photoshop to make gear dyable.

We're constantly reminded that the dev team is small and operates on very tight deadlines, so the fact that it was "make it dyable" or "make new gear" doesn't surprise me at all.


Really, just add an item that makes it dyable in 3.45 or 3.5, maybe with a tiny boost in iLVL too. With this being the final tier of Alex, that would keep it relevant for longer.

[Naunet]

You may be surprised to know that the dyes affect the texture work on most gear in this game and that there is a good deal more work involved than just using the bucket tool in photoshop to make gear dyable.

Pretty sure I knew that already. Please tell me how all other MMOs manage this basic thing without sacrificing new armor models.

[Morningstar1337]

Pretty sure I knew that already. Please tell me how all other MMOs manage this basic thing without sacrificing new armor models.

I speculate that other devoupers had worked out a system where there is one Texture file per gear piece and a filter option to simulate the changing colors. Using the basic sceme as a referince while having programs work on the background to modify the texture image based on RBG variable. They may or may not have separate reference per part of the piece that can be painted to use as Layers. Like one layer for the base and one for the accent colors.

For example, I'll used the Augmented Ironworks Coat of healing. If my speculation this IS true and this game's devs used such thing. then instead of having one Texture gear per dye color, they instead have one per color on the Gear itself (Blue, White and Black), which makes 3 layers. One can then choose to dye the White part Metallic Red, which would change one layer, then they could dye the Blue Parts a contrasting Lime Green color and That layer could be changed.

Again it is just speculation, but it would explain both your question and why the Devs didn't allow multiple parts to be dyed.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

The devs said they had a tight schedule and it was either make gear dyable or make the gear unique compared to the tarnished versions. They went for the former and talked about possibly adding dyable versions at a later date.