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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    You're actually rather wrong in that regard. Final Fantasy has actually treated churches as a place you revive KO'd party members. A church was also a place where you first meet a certain flower girl. X, Lightning Returns and XIV are probably the only Final Fantasy games where "world religion" is treated as evil or corrupt. Leaving out cults, as even in real life they tend to be evil...

    It might not be common for churches to be corrupt in Final Fantasy, but in JRPGs in general, it's VERY overused.
    What about VI, where Kafka became a god and destroyed the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by cammi View Post
    Actually I'mma go more in detail. I don't care that my character doesn't talk ingame. I care that my character doesn't ACT in game movies. I hate that npcs can do all this crazy Street Fighter Anime battle crap but my character stands there like a little princess waiting to be saved. I'm the goddammed WARRIOR OF LIGHT! I save YOU! you don't save me. That is my issue with the story. Let me feel like the BA I'm posed to be. IF that means more solo instances where I have to actually fight things then bring it on. I'm posed to be the BAMF of this plot.. LET ME BE THAT. Show me, stop TELLING me.
    I think the most we can expect are scenes like this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V6w...3kNUeq&index=7
    While everyone run away from the enemy, the protagonist go straight to him, ready to fight back. But the fight itself will be outside of the CS.

    About the "Silence Protagonist" problem, what is missing is a permament story partner who speak for the protagonist, like the Path of Twelve Companion from 1.0
    https://youtu.be/opa2XtyvUOA?t=317
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-24-2016 at 11:41 PM.

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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    What about VI, where Kafka became a god and destroyed the world?
    Only the Cult of Kefka worshipped him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    What about VI, where Kafka became a god and destroyed the world?
    It's not really spelled out to you like it is in other games. A million years ago when I first did the climb and the Kefka fight, my first thought was "well, that's surreal and different", not "OMG this is an allegory for religion and I feel so badass for killing god". The closest things out of the entire fight that even alluded to religious undertones were the third movement of Dancing Mad (itself based on a Bach piece) and the fact Kefka was cosplaying an angel.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)