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    I really don't care if later story won't make sense if I don't know earlier story because IMO, the writing in FF14 is usually insultingly bad. For example, I still don't understand what the Ascians are trying to achieve... and what... I've been exposed to this so-called story for like 100-200 hours?

    I don't even think FF14's story deserves to even be called a story, often it is just pointless dialogues made to accompany the endless amounts of fetch quests. Hildebrant and some other arcs are great, I think 3.3 was decent, and the English translators are brilliant but for the most part, I don't care at all for FF14's story. It was written by people who don't understand the fundamentals of storytelling. And the endless fetch quests were made by people who don't understand the fundamentals of good gameplay. Don't make them mandatory because the content sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWW View Post
    I really don't care if later story won't make sense if I don't know earlier story because IMO, the writing in FF14 is usually insultingly bad. For example, I still don't understand what the Ascians are trying to achieve... and what... I've been exposed to this so-called story for like 100-200 hours?

    I don't even think FF14's story deserves to even be called a story, often it is just pointless dialogues made to accompany the endless amounts of fetch quests.
    Guess what, I know what the Ascians are trying to achieve. I know that because I payed attention to all the pointless dialogues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Guess what, I know what the Ascians are trying to achieve. I know that because I payed attention to all the pointless dialogues.
    They say it is to revive something (spoiler) but where does it ever explain their motive, or what they gain out of it? What's so good or bad about what they aim to achieve? 3.4 also made things a lot more vague, and that silly warrior of darkness pep talk at the end, ugh. Oh my god.

    I'm gonna say it again, the story sucks. It doesn't need explanation for why it sucks, if you don't know why then you wouldn't be able to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWW View Post
    They say it is to revive something (spoiler) but where does it ever explain their motive, or what they gain out of it? What's so good or bad about what they aim to achieve? 3.4 also made things a lot more vague, and that silly warrior of darkness pep talk at the end, ugh. Oh my god.

    I'm gonna say it again, the story sucks. It doesn't need explanation for why it sucks, if you don't know why then you wouldn't be able to understand.
    Actually, that's not how debate works. You cannot say 'X, and if you do not understand why then you cannot understand why.' "If you do not understand why that is bad for debate, then you cannot understand why debate works the way it does."

    In your opinion the story is bad. Sure, that's fine. However, explain why the lorebook has sold out immediately both at Fanfest and online, if the story is as bad as you say. As well, there are answers to your questions if you'd bother to look.

    The story goes to great lengths to show that the Ascians are trying to revive their Dark God Zodiark, who is the evil to Hydaelyn's good. To this end, they're weakening Hydaelyn by forcing beast tribes to summon Primals, because every primal summoned eats that much more of her total aether. Why is this bad? It isn't necessarily, we just know that Zodiark and Hydaelyn are opposed to each other, and we're Hydaelyn's guardians as the Warriors of Light.

    Where does it explain this? It's inferred in a lot of cutscenes, however it's most obvious in cutscenes after you kill EX Garuda, Titan, and Ifrit where they discuss how they're enjoying the fact that your only option is to keep playing their game because every time they re-summon a Primal it sucks more aether from Hydaelyn, but it becomes a constant drain on her if we just let them roam around. In the end of 2.0 they talk about their plans to revive Zodiark.

    I can agree with you as far as the ending of 3.4's story, and I'm especially sad the concept of the Warriors of Darkness was wasted just to introduce multiple worlds to us and deliver the maguffin to the bad guys. That doesn't mean the entire story up till now has been bad, however.
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