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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    MCH is the least played DD (according to 2015 Census) About 7% of players played MCH.
    MCH is ranged DD. Fills a support role in raid and is known for their "Hypercharge" that gives damage boost to both tanks, melees and himself. He can catchup to NIN in dps or even surpass if played well. Gives MP and TP region to party when needed, also has some defensive abilities (reducing physical or magical damage). "Wildfire" can reach up to 13k with current il250 gear, they have huge burst in damage. Having DRG with MCH will boost MCH dps even more. MCH is considered the "Most Complex DPS Job" according to this pool. Since they include RNG with weapon skills and need to manage 11 oGCDs.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 10-18-2016 at 11:42 PM.
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    Sliver Yurnero
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    Ragnarok
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    Rogue Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    MCH is the least played DD (according to 2015 Census) About 7% of players played MCH.
    MCH is ranged DD. Fills a support role in raid and is known for their "Hypercharge" that gives damage boost to both tanks, melees and himself. He can catchup to NIN in dps or even surpass if played well. Gives MP and TP region to party when needed, also has some defensive abilities (reducing physical or magical damage). "Wildfire" can reach up to 13k with current il250 gear, they have huge burst in damage. Having DRG with MCH will boost MCH dps even more. MCH is considered the "Most Complex DPS Job" according to this pool. Since they include RNG with weapon skills and need to manage 11 oGCDs.
    Well for a newbies is it better start with drg than mch? Or should i go yolo for the personal challenger with mch?
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sliver94 View Post
    Well for a newbies is it better start with drg than mch? Or should i go yolo for the personal challenger with mch?
    MCH is by no means hard, it's a fun job ^^
    Up to you, you can watch videos about DRG and MCH to see their gameplay then decide
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    Sliver Yurnero
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    Rogue Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    MCH is by no means hard, it's a fun job ^^
    Up to you, you can watch videos about DRG and MCH to see their gameplay then decide
    Yeah I've seen videos and I like both, it's because i ask opinions. Meanwhile i do level lancer for bfb.
    Thank you all for the replies
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sliver94 View Post
    Well for a newbies is it better start with... drg than mch? Or should i go yolo for the personal challenger with mch?
    ...fun.

    i wouldn't take mechanics, savage endgame-content, or the likings of others tooooo serious - if its your first cls, choose one and start to enjoy Eorzea, have fun with the story, get in touch with sidequests like beastribes, chocobos, goldsaucer etc. And all this can be done with any cls. Later on you will see there are ways to raise other cls/jobs PRETTY PRETTY fast. so for now fuck off rotations, endgame party-constellations and pro-gamer opinions – just have fun exploring Eorzea by yourself.

    thats what every "novice" should be looking for and not... the whole endgame mess up -
    "playing this because of that" will catch you up anyway while gaining your "own" ingame-experience.
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    Last edited by Neela; 10-19-2016 at 10:23 PM.

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    Tee Hee
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    MCH is the least played DD (according to 2015 Census) About 7% of players played MCH.
    A lot of people switched to mch at february 2016, when he got some boost (including me). Before it was a new job, that required some learning, so many people continued to play brd. After boost mch became too good to ignore. Later brd got some boost too, but by that time people already leared mch and it turned out to be more mobile job that is better suited to raids, so I don't think that many machinists switched to bards back at that time.

    I'm really interested to watch 2016 census by the end of the year.

    P.S. I'm playing machinist now, so I'm biased in this discussion, can't give advice to OP. (try them all)
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    Dr Yeol
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by vp_cmc View Post
    A lot of people switched to mch at february 2016, when he got some boost (including me). Before it was a new job, that required some learning, so many people continued to play brd. After boost mch became too good to ignore. Later brd got some boost too, but by that time people already leared mch and it turned out to be more mobile job that is better suited to raids, so I don't think that many machinists switched to bards back at that time.

    I'm really interested to watch 2016 census by the end of the year.



    P.S. I'm playing machinist now, so I'm biased in this discussion, can't give advice to OP. (try them all)
    Yes, I am aware of those buffs to BRD and MCH. Looking forward to 2016 census as well ^^
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    Geteav Nroc
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by vp_cmc View Post
    A lot of people switched to mch at february 2016, when he got some boost (including me). Before it was a new job, that required some learning, so many people continued to play brd. After boost mch became too good to ignore. Later brd got some boost too, but by that time people already leared mch and it turned out to be more mobile job that is better suited to raids, so I don't think that many machinists switched to bards back at that time.

    I'm really interested to watch 2016 census by the end of the year.

    P.S. I'm playing machinist now, so I'm biased in this discussion, can't give advice to OP. (try them all)
    I had leveled up MCH to cap, back in Feb/March, and the damage output felt really lackluster, compared to SMN and DRG. Often times, i felt i was more a liability to my dungeon group, than an asset. Honestly, i'm hoping that it gets a really good rework in Stormblood, where the abilities feel alot more rewarding, and the combinations feel alot more rewarding. I think the 'RNG class'-thing was a gamble on SE's part, so it'll be interesting if they follow up and tweak the job, based on the amount of people actually making it their main job.
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    Gridania
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    Kass Tenbe
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Veji View Post
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    They better not, or at least not too much. I especially like the RNG combo with ammunition (it feels really good to take a chance and hold onto your quick reload and use split shot to proc a slug then ammunition it to a clean). As far as damage output is concerned of course it will be a bit lower due to the fact that it's classed as a support roll but even then I'm not that far behind the rest of the team in raiding content if not right up there with them depending on the fight.
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