Why do you raid?

[FinaSel]

What would you do with that tomestone gear?

This is a good point. I always thought I should get Tomestone gear so I can do the next dungeons when they are released.
But then I wonder, why do those dungeons?

Many people mentioned the challenge. I agree that the challenge is exciting and it's very wonderful when you clear the raid after many tries.

But now on the 3rd floor, after many groups and many failures, I'm not sure balancing time / reward is worth it. Perhaps I am better suited for a crafter after all.

I got into raiding mostly from the pressure from friends to join. Until then, I spent almost all my time crafting and gathering and doing dungeons for tomes to do more crafting. And getting achievements.

But by not raiding I do kind of feel like I am missing out on an important aspect of the game.

[Sparktacus]

This is a good point. I always thought I should get Tomestone gear so I can do the next dungeons when they are released.
But then I wonder, why do those dungeons?

Many people mentioned the challenge. I agree that the challenge is exciting and it's very wonderful when you clear the raid after many tries.

But now on the 3rd floor, after many groups and many failures, I'm not sure balancing time / reward is worth it. Perhaps I am better suited for a crafter after all.

I got into raiding mostly from the pressure from friends to join. Until then, I spent almost all my time crafting and gathering and doing dungeons for tomes to do more crafting. And getting achievements.

But by not raiding I do kind of feel like I am missing out on an important aspect of the game.

Raiding here is not as fleshed out as it should be either. I think you are right about balance, I just cleared A10S myself and i found it very fun, but I know 11 will be daunting and require a much more coordinated dance that I can definitely empathize with your exhaustion. If it isn't fun don't do it. Perhaps have fun with ex primals, I find them a lot of fun. There is also some rumors that there will be a 3 tier difficulty system in 4.0 which might help give some more balanced and fun raids.

[Areic]

But now on the 3rd floor, after many groups and many failures, I'm not sure balancing time / reward is worth it. Perhaps I am better suited for a crafter after all.

Just to note, savage is supposed to be the hardest content in the game. The previous savage raids honestly weren't as easy on release as the new set of alex is, the 9th and 10th floor were really oddly a piece of cake.

Generally unless you're in a hardcore group who raids many days/hours per week or just /very/ skilled player, usually it takes most groups a couple weeks to clear a floor if doing it casually. We got AS9 on week one, AS10 on week 2, and we're on AS11 now and only just getting him to 30% after about two days of two hours each.

I will say most the time even clear parties aren't coordinated enough to do the harder content easily, when it comes to savage content I feel like you're lucky if you can get a clear party to finish the harder ones.

[FinaSel]

Thank you everyone for your answers.

It seems almost everyone says they raid for the challenge. I can understand why.
When I am focused and the boss has 10% or less HP, I can really excited and begin thinking "We can do this!"

But I think my satisfaction from challenge might be somewhere else.
I find a great challenge in gathering all of my own mats and switching specializations to craft all my own gear. And I love completing my achievement logs.

Last night I challenged 3rd floor again. Our group is becoming more stable. We reached final phase many times.
Our new record is 6% remaining HP.

But to be honest, using HQ food and HQ Supramax potions during the fight (especially when we wipe before even reaching final phase), it very disappointing.

At the end, one of members told everyone else to raise the IL before tomorrow. I didn't check the other's IL, but mine is already 254. There is nothing I can do to raise it anymore until next week's scripture reset. I imagine the others must be in a similar situation.

It's a little vexxing to hear it.

I will probably limit myself to just 1 raid set a day, if that.