Main Scenario Restriction Bloodstorm - Very Very Bad idea.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

It would impact the number of bad players at endgame, and make the community even more toxic than it already is. We have set rotations in this game, many of which you will not understand unless you leveled the class from scratch. I also don't know about you, but many will end up just kicking new players or refusing to use the DF at all due to the amount of bad players out there. Remember the amount of bad DRK/AST/MCH just from the dungeons under level 50? Imagine all those bad players, except at level 60 dungeons without knowing how to play their class. Rather than go through all this and make the community downright horrible, we can have all the new players go through the main story and get there, which by the time they get there, they will know a rotation, know various boss mechanics, and at least be decent enough to get through stuff.

Oh really? I'll reiterate one more time, I leveled Dragoon from 34 to 52 in a single day doing nothing but fates for ten hours. In fact, I don't even think I was done with 2.0 at the time. You know how I figured out Dragoon's rotation? I youtubed a video and adapted the 60 rotation to 50. Not a single quest along the way gave me any hints or suggestions on how to properly utilize my rotation. You don't learn Blood for Blood gives a slight potency increase if used ahead of Internal Release. The Dragoon questline doesn't tell you how to manage Geirskogul or how frequent in your rotation it can be used. It doesn't even mention the skill by name. You're literally just handed it after completing a story that has nothing to do with that particular skill. So what exactly would I be missing had I skipped the storyline entirely, you know, the storyline that doesn't even mention the skills it gives you by name, let alone show you how to use it?

You mean boss mechanics where players currently shout at you if you haven't watched a guide? Since I only joined last year, I did many bits of content out of order. Like clearing Nidhogg EX before more than half the extreme primals before him. I managed to learn his mechanics just fine. Someone skipping ahead isn't going to be clueless. This game isn't exactly difficult to figure out. Not to mention, MrHappy and Mizzteq put out guides within a week or two of new content being launched. Most people are either going into content where everyone is blind to mechanics or they've watched guides.

And bad players will always be bad. They don't care. Inexperienced players generally want to learn how to play properly and will readily accept advice when mistakes are made. I recently had a mentor White Mage who stood still and did nothing while we mowed down mobs. This person was wearing ilvl 250 gear, had it all melded yet he couldn't be bothered to even turn on Cleric Stance once. Evidently, the MSQ and job questline didn't make him give a hoot about DPSing.

[Emeke]

The only thing a dislike is gating jobs. If you own the expansion I think the jobs sounds be accessible. However have the job quests gated respectively. 50-60 HW, 60-70 BS

[TarynH]

Dungeons are laughably easy.

So is the story. And they have 8 months to do it.

There isn't a problem. Some people just aren't interested in the story. What you or I find appealing someone else may think is boring anime cliche. It's all subjective. If they're skipping the story anyway, then why do you care if a jump potion were introduced? It wouldn't impact you or your enjoyment of the story.

I don't care what other people find interesting. As you don't seem to care what others find interesting. But they can play the game just like everyone else, and do the interesting and uninteresting things equally. Slapping a new person into a new expansion won't change much if they're not interested in half of the game. They will still get bored. Why? Because they never had the required attention span to get through the game in the first place.

[Emeke]

The only thing a dislike is gating jobs. If you own the expansion I think the jobs sounds be accessible. However have the job quests gated respectively. 50-60 HW, 60-70 BS

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I don't care what other people find interesting. As you don't seem to care what others find interesting. But they can play the game just like everyone else, and do the interesting and uninteresting things equally. Slapping a new person into a new expansion won't change much if they're not interested in half of the game. They will still get bored. Why? Because they never had the required attention span to get through the game in the first place.

Where did I say that? Only you have insisted that your preferred way of playing the game is only way it should be played. Is that right? You should go ask Mizzteq why she hasn't unsubbed then because she's admitted to skipping cutscenes yet not only has she stay subbed for probably longer than you or I, she makes guides for the whole game. Apparently, she hasn't gotten bored. Shock horror, just because people aren't interested in the story doesn't mean they'll necessarily quit the game.

[TarynH]

Where did I say that? Only you have insisted that your preferred way of playing the game is only way it should be played. Is that right? You should go ask Mizzteq why she hasn't unsubbed then because she's admitted to skipping cutscenes yet not only has she stay subbed for probably longer than you or I, she makes guides for the whole game. Apparently, she hasn't gotten bored. Shock horror, just because people aren't interested in the story doesn't mean they'll necessarily quit the game.

You imply it with every post on this thread. You persist with the same argument. "It should not matter to others if someone wants to skip the story." Over and over you have said this. Anyone who mentions the story, you deliberately go out of your way to shove this argument in their face. Saying the story doesn't matter, and that end-game and dungeons are the real content.

Maybe to you. But the story does matter to those other people, or they wouldn't be saying it. Honestly, I don't care if you skip the story; legitimately. I care about the integrity of the game, and have said this. A pay-to-win/skip system will absolutely destroy the integrity of the game.

I have been subbed from day 1 of the PS4 release, and have stayed subbed. I have done ARR story twice. First on Sargatanas, and restarted on Jenova. The reason? No housing at the time. Couldn't transfer either. I'm currently taking an alt. through the story, and cataloging it for a blog. I find nearly every aspect of the game interesting, and to this point have always found a way to occupy my time. My "preferred" way of playing the game, is playing the game how it is intended, from level one. You seem to think this way is wrong, despite hundreds of thousands playing through it with no problem. Some multiple times. Maybe it has too much bulk, but playing the game from level 1 is how this game was intended to be played. What a harsh thing to say to someone new... play the game from the start.

You reference one roleplayer you know, as being the end all of this discussion. Why does it matter so much that a roleplayer skips ahead? Why should it concern the entire player base that one person out of millions, wants to go play their non-WoL role in the new city, but doesn't want to play the "boring" story? Do I care that they're there? No. Do I care if they change the fundamental core of a game I enjoy for this small minority? Yes.

Every player gets bored of the game at some point. They take a break. What they don't do is come back and demand that they are caught up with everything they missed while on the break. Instead, they bust their ass to catch up, if it is that important to them.

Why should a new player have an advantage over someone that busted their ass to get through the MSQ? You keep saying that it is not an "advantage," but then bring up the Chinese version. Did you also know that with the Chinese version they can pay to level up their jobs? They get gil and other items as well. Do you not see something fundamentally wrong with this type of system?

Like I said, even just one single little thing (a jumping potion) can set a precedent for the cash shop. What stops it from turning into the Chinese pay-to-win model?

[Starkbeaumont]

I have an alt that has ilevel230 (without buying gear) and a playtime of less than 5 days. if new ppl really wanna experience the expansion so badly, they can simply skip cutscenes and be done with the quests in no time. once SB drops, lv60 HW quest will probably have gear rewards in them so you don't have to care about getting gear and grinding tomestones. you can easily ignore all sidequest and still be ready for the 60-70 portion.
On top of that HW doesn't have so many 60 quests in the MSQ. the only part that is kind of a stretch is the lv50 MSQ

[KitingGenbu]

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Retainers aren't p2w?

Someone brought up an argument on specializations and how people could just use jump potions to have more toons with them. But can't you just level all 8 of your retainers and send them on ventures to have more chances of getting stuff than someone else? Honestly, this point holds weight at the very start of an expansion when things are at their highest. Yet, you'll see a whole bunch of posts pertaining to how retainers aren't p2w and you have to level each one and gear etc etc. Fact remains, its a method that people can buy which increases advancement over others in some form, which I'm pretty sure what most people consider to be p2w.

[NatSilverguard]

Like what?

they might consider streamlining MSQ and remove filler quest then give high exp.

[Lulu89]

It's not just a time and effort issue. Some people are simply not interested in the story.

Then maybe ppl need to play an MMO that's not Final Fantasy!
Final Fantasy is a Story based GAME! Not a free hand out of crap.
The story is what make this game Final Fantasy!
The story will always come 1st! Befor endgame befor open world.. Befor PvP and
befor you! Because that is what make this game Final Fantasy! <3