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  1. #11
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    PAGE: 296
    HEADING: Summoning Voidsent

    End of second paragraph: "Natheless, this has not prevented cultists from dabbling..."

    I'm pretty sure that's intended to be "nonetheless". :V
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarDrake View Post
    PAGE: 296
    HEADING: Summoning Voidsent

    End of second paragraph: "Natheless, this has not prevented cultists from dabbling..."

    I'm pretty sure that's intended to be "nonetheless". :V
    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/natheless

    It's Old English
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    True, somehow that slipped my mind (oh Middle English classes, you were so long ago), but I don't believe it's used elsewhere in the book and even for the game's somewhat baroque stylings it's very anachronistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarDrake View Post
    True, somehow that slipped my mind (oh Middle English classes, you were so long ago), but I don't believe it's used elsewhere in the book and even for the game's somewhat baroque stylings it's very anachronistic.
    Seolc, Old English for silk, was used for the Monk section. Without a way to ctrl+f, I can't say whether or not silk is used throughout the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    PAGE: 087
    HEADING: Seekers of the Sun
    Section: Culture

    Is this a possible error? In the Miqo'te Naming conventions post, Nunh status does not equate leadership in a tribe and it is a rare occurrence. The culture section states "with each tribe centered around a strong breeding male (nunh) whose duty it is to form a harem and lead his people to glory and prosperity."

    Is this perhaps erroneous a statement?
    This could be interpreted as leading the tribe to prosperity by producing lots of strong offspring. It doesn't necessarily mean political leader.
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    PAGE: 087
    HEADING: Seekers of the Sun
    Section: Culture

    As Kage said, this section explicitly contradicts what has been previously published on Seeker lore. It was NOT said that they're patriarchal previously, as the lore book now states they are patriarchal. It was stated that the nunh RARELY actually leads the tribe in the official naming convention thread. We were to accept that the U tribe in game was one of these exceptions due to their nunh being renowned for being one of the Company of Heroes, but that the other tribes out there were matriarchal.
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    PAGE: 029
    HEADING: The Forgotten Age
    Section: The Fifth Umbral Era The Calamity of Ice

    Here the lore book states that the frozen seas allowed for the migration of the Miqo'te back to Eorzea from southern Ilsabard. It also states that they were persecuted and driven from Eorzea 2000 years prior.
    Previous lore statements in the game have indicated that the migration that occurred during the Age of Endless Frost was that of the ancestors of the Miqo'te coming from Meracydia. Not only does not make sense that they would be forced into Ilsabard and then need a frozen sea to return to Eorzea from Ilsabard (how did they get there in the first place if they needed the frozen sea to get back?), but it directly contradicts lore given since 1.0 and 2.0 about the origins of Miqo'te. There is also no indication of when they arrived in Eorzea originally, if the Allagans forced them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahela View Post
    I'm not sure if it should go in here or the bug report thread, but Leveva's entire profile is outright contradictory. First off, Encyclopedia Eorzea says 'her mother died in childbirth, and her father a scant few years later.' Except Leveva's father Rufin was murdered in Ishgard either right before or after her birth, twenty years ago, which contradicts her age being given as 16. And for that matter, a rather glaring oversight is that Leveva's mother is still alive! She tried to stop her daughter from going to Eorzea and was used as one of Sevestre's bargaining chips in the level 58 quest.

    I don't know how this kind of huge mistake happened, but it's only the first major one I've managed to find, and I'm sure there's more.
    (Page unknown, but located in the Astrologian section)
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    PAGE: 087
    HEADING: Keepers of the Moon
    Section: Nomenclature

    "The Keepers of the Moon are a highly matriarchal society. This is manifested in their names, each of which begins with a matronymic. In the female name Okhi Nbolo, Okhi is the mother's name, to which is attached the given name Nbolo. Female and male names show little distinction from each other, with both composed of short, powerful syllables. The matriarchal tendencies can also be seen in male names, which also contain a matronymic to which is appended a suffix indicating birth order. ('a for first, 'to for second, 'li, 'sae, 'ra, 'ir, 'wo, 'ya, 'zi, and 'tan for the tenth). Though these suffixes number ten, rarely are more than two or three sons born to even the largest Keeper families."

    In the Miqo'te naming conventions:
    Male

    More evidence of how important the mother is to the Keepers of the Moon can be seen when looking at the names given to males. In addition to taking the mother’s surname, males also take the mother’s forename, adding a suffix (separated by an apostrophe) to the end to designate the order in which they were born.

    First son: 'a
    Second son: 'to
    Third son: 'li
    Fourth son: 'sae
    Fifth son: 'ra
    Sixth son: 'ir
    Seventh son: 'wo
    Eighth son: 'ya
    Ninth son: 'zi
    Tenth son: 'tan

    - Okhi’a Nbolo
    - Cemi’to Jinjahl
    - Gota’li Jaab
    - Sizha’sae Epocan
    This seems to imply that the suffix is added to the mother's forename. So for this male keeper, Okhi is his mother's given name and Nbolo is the surname (family mother name)? This seems to contradict the lore book.
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    Page: ???
    Heading: Lucia Goe Junius
    Section: Ishgardian profile
    ((sorry again I don't have access to the book right now but it's easy enough to find))

    Lucia's profile describes how she infiltrates Ishgard as an acolyte, only for a curious Aymeric to question her. In this situation the book says that he discovers her as a Garlean agent, but instead of turning her over to the authorities he offers to let her live if she would serve him. The book then goes on to describe how terrified she is for her life after she agrees to his coniditions and frequently plotting a way to escape only to eventually see him as a leader.

    However, this completely goes against any language version of the game. She willingly came to him of her own accords after being inspired by his leadership and revealed herself as a Garlean, where he then chose to accept her. The book portrayal also makes Aymeric come off as more of a villain than he really is. Though he is fiercely protective of Ishgard the situation seems unusual to his personality. This book situation also makes Lucia seem more helpless than how she actually is ingame
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