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  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Just make sure they lock the Duty Finder to that server alone aswell. I don't wanna get teamed up with lvl 60's on their first day at the game.
    Let's flip that around, shall we?

    "I don't want to play with people who leveled to 70 over the course of two weeks by collecting chocobo eggs and boar butts. I'd rather play with people who have spent just as much time in-game at the level cap, reading their tooltips and practicing on dummies."

    SHOCKING, I KNOW. Fetching goblin cheese does not a more skilled player make! More at 11.
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  2. #262
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    But FFXIV is not ment to be a fast paced game where you enter and then is done 15-30 min later. It's meant to take time.
    If people want to play those kind of games then there are plenty of them out there. Don't come here and try and change something that isn't broken just because you find it boring.
    There are plenty of games on the market just for that reason. A game might not appeal to some, but there are plenty more to choose from. Everything can't fit like a glove.
    One thing is what you think FFXIV is meant to be and another what the devs think FFXIV is meant to be, seeing how they already confirmed you won't need HW MSQ for this seems like you were already proven wrong. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3263909
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  3. #263
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    But FFXIV is not ment to be a fast paced game where you enter and then is done 15-30 min later. It's meant to take time.
    Actually, it is. Yoshi has explained it himself time and again. Overlooking the flaw of the player queue, the concept of this game is that those with limited schedules can find fulfillment within 2-3 hours playtime a day on average. Palace, Ex Trials, Duty Roullette, it all exists within supplementary form that you can throw yourself into it and make progress. Whether by a little or a lot, it's stupid easy to cap tomes for the week not even doing all your roulettes, or gathering tokens to turn in for your primal weapon, doing last turn of alex for the weekly, the weekly drops of 24-mans, even running Palace or Aqua a couple times for the night, making money or getting a weapon. And that's just battle content. I've easily leveled a crafting class doing moogle dailies, and a gatherer doing GC turn ins.

    Someone who has only so much time on their hands can easily manage a play schedule to get the most out of every hour they have.
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  4. #264
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    It's understandable but if it continues like this, we're gonna get less and less players in the future areas. Imagine if it's 6.0 or 7.0, and people have to finish all the previous main scenario.
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  5. #265
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    One thing is what you think FFXIV is meant to be and another what the devs think FFXIV is meant to be, seeing how they already confirmed you won't need HW MSQ for this seems like you were already proven wrong. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3263909
    That is from 2015. He did many recent interviews and said he wants people to enjoy the story as it continues but other features such as jobs won't be locked behind the MSQs.
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  6. #266
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Someone who has only so much time on their hands can easily manage a play schedule to get the most out of every hour they have.
    Its fine to not have much time to play but why does everything need to cater to a player who can't play much vs a player who can play a couple hours a day? (And I don't mean the people who play like 12-15 hours a day)
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  7. #267
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    That is from 2015. He did many recent interviews and said he wants people to enjoy the story as it continues but other features such as jobs won't be locked behind the MSQs.
    If you don't have a source of him saying MSQ will be required then you're not really countering my source.
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  8. #268
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Let's flip that around, shall we?

    "I don't want to play with people who leveled to 70 over the course of two weeks by collecting chocobo eggs and boar butts. I'd rather play with people who have spent just as much time in-game at the level cap, reading their tooltips and practicing on dummies."

    SHOCKING, I KNOW. Fetching goblin cheese does not a more skilled player make! More at 11.
    I'm sorry, I dont seem to follow you. What do you mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    One thing is what you think FFXIV is meant to be and another what the devs think FFXIV is meant to be, seeing how they already confirmed you won't need HW MSQ for this seems like you were already proven wrong. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3263909
    But heavensward is only 10 lvl's. If they would've used a boost they would've skipped 1-50 aswell. So basicly you still have to put in time to play the game so I am not wrong either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Actually, it is. Yoshi has explained it himself time and again. Overlooking the flaw of the player queue, the concept of this game is that those with limited schedules can find fulfillment within 2-3 hours playtime a day on average. Palace, Ex Trials, Duty Roullette, it all exists within supplementary form that you can throw yourself into it and make progress. Whether by a little or a lot, it's stupid easy to cap tomes for the week not even doing all your roulettes, or gathering tokens to turn in for your primal weapon, doing last turn of alex for the weekly, the weekly drops of 24-mans, even running Palace or Aqua a couple times for the night, making money or getting a weapon. And that's just battle content. I've easily leveled a crafting class doing moogle dailies, and a gatherer doing GC turn ins.

    Someone who has only so much time on their hands can easily manage a play schedule to get the most out of every hour they have.
    I thought we were basicly talking about the MSQ, not the DF queues and such.
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 10-18-2016 at 02:31 AM.

  9. #269
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    But FFXIV is not ment to be a fast paced game where you enter and then is done 15-30 min later.
    Meanwhile, that is precisely how our gearing process is set up - 15-25 minutes of expert a day 5 days a week and you're at the top end of progression for a non-raider. Most of our dungeons actually take roughly as long. Ever wondered "why"? That's the casual pace! You aren't meant to commit for much longer at a time. "It's meant to take time", yeah right...

    The difference is that FFXIV (and WoW and most other MMORPGs) also have a great many timesinks in between - walking to a spot, talking to a random NPC etc. And that is why MMORPG as a whole are in decline while other games prosper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    It's understandable but if it continues like this, we're gonna get less and less players in the future areas. Imagine if it's 6.0 or 7.0, and people have to finish all the previous main scenario.
    It comes with age, Much like FFXI, i highly doubt it's seeing any new players, and and starting over from scratch was a serious pain for new players, i have not played it since 2012, so i don't know if they made shortcuts at this point, but i sure as hell would not start a brand new character on it this late into it's life.
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