What level should the new jobs start at?

[Airget]

i hope they start at 50 but 30 is probably more likely.

50 is excessive, the reason why 30 is sucha good number is because 30 is around the time the job/class really starts. From 1-30 the rotations are pretty simple but once you go into 30+ you get into the meat of the job. So having someone start there and take a quick glance at the abilities is a lot more feasible then having them start at lv 50 since that's a lot to have to learn at a glance compared to 30.

[SendohJin]

50 is excessive, the reason why 30 is sucha good number is because 30 is around the time the job/class really starts.

it's not excessive when the new cap is 70. 30-50 takes less time than 50-60. 50-60 is enough of a "training" ground. especially if the jobs change a lot above 60 as they are implying (unless whatever the changes are affect the whole game).

it's pointless to learn and play BRD from 30-50 since WM is a thing. making people learn BLM without Enochian, SMN without Dreadwyrm Trance, DRG without BotD are all really wasteful.

[Blood-Aki]

it's not excessive when the new cap is 70. 30-50 takes less time than 50-60. 50-60 is enough of a "training" ground. especially if the jobs change a lot above 60 as they are implying (unless whatever the changes are affect the whole game).

it's pointless to learn and play BRD from 30-50 since WM is a thing. making people learn BLM without Enochian, SMN without Dreadwyrm Trance, DRG without BotD are all really wasteful.

It is excessive.. 50 is seriously 20 levels off from main, do you really think that will make sense? Be glad it's even 30, the goal is to ease you into the job so you get a feel of it's ability. This is why back in the day people who leveled only by fates were ususally quite bad at their jobs, because they took a huge shortcut. and did not actually LEARN it.

[SendohJin]

It is excessive.. 50 is seriously 20 levels off from main, do you really think that will make sense? Be glad it's even 30, the goal is to ease you into the job so you get a feel of it's ability. This is why back in the day people who leveled only by fates were ususally quite bad at their jobs, because they took a huge shortcut. and did not actually LEARN it.

so there shouldn't be FATEs at all and Hunt bills shouldn't give XP? and you're making a bold claim that people now are not bad at their jobs.

[Blood-Aki]

so there shouldn't be FATEs at all and Hunt bills shouldn't give XP? and you're making a bold claim that people now are not bad at their jobs.

and you just put words in my mouth, wasn't at all what i was claiming, You really should learn reading comprehension.

Since it's a little hard for you, let me dumb it down a bit, When people pick the "fastest way" to level, they don't really learn the jobs. FATES were very quick way to level, but people lacked understanding of the jobs they were playing since they lacked actual experience getting those levels. I hope that wasn't to difficult.

In other words: it's close to someone coming on a game, 1st day and instant level 60, then someone tells them, "go raid"