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  1. #51
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    Ven Black
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Why do people want to play the new story without giving care to the old story. It's all continuation. You're not going to get it by skipping all of it and jumping in near the end.

    If it were something for alts, then maybe, but otherwise i just don't get it.

    And even so, people seem to forget how much of an absolute grind it is leveling to the new cap. Remember HW leveling? Do a quest chain, get maybe 50-60% of the way to the next level, then grind out the next 2 levels with dungeons/fates to pick up the next part in the chain, then grind out two more levels until you finally reach the cap. The many many patches of MSQ tacked onto the end of expansions eases you in a bit, and nudges your gear up to par for the next level of difficulty.

    I remember reaching level 50 and being ilvl 45. If i had started in HW and wanted to immediately jump into the new content/story, my gear would have been nowhere near acceptable to start questing, as the HW quests were tuned to maybe i90-i100, a fresh 50 would have been absolutely destroyed, but thanks to the MSQ, you get some extra experience, and you nudge your ilvl up to par along the way.

    What they CAN do to ease the journey to max level is to drastically increase the rate of experience gain (at least to the point where you're not constantly scrambling to grind out a few levels to reach the next part), and add suitable gear rewards to the older MSQ to aid in catching up.
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    Last edited by Averax; 10-17-2016 at 09:00 AM.

  2. #52
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    If ppl want to skip ARR and HW then just do the leveling potion for 1 job to 60 and charge them 40 bucks for it. Heck that's being lenient charge 60
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  3. #53
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Why do people want to play the new story without giving care to the old story. It's all continuation. You're not going to get it by skipping all of it and jumping in near the end.

    If it were something for alts, then maybe, but otherwise i just don't get it.
    Because some people just don't care. They'll watch it later in the Unending Journey, level an alt purposely to go through the story slowly while still having their main ready for new content or they simply don't give a hoot about the story at all and just play for raids, dungeons, crafting or roleplaying. I have someone on my friend's list who has never done a single extreme primal. Not one of them. She hasn't even unlocked all the dungeons yet. What does she do? Roleplay. That's literally the only reason she plays. Funny enough, she's probably more active than a lot of raiders.
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  4. #54
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
    MSQ lock on Ala Mhigo would be in the level 30 range, so they don't need to go and flip Forgotten springs content that hinges on it being a refugee camp.
    At level 30 the Garleans raided the Scion HQ, the WoL found Cid and start to search Cid's missing airship somewhere in Coertas. The WoL don't have time to raid the border (heavy guarded because it is still before the civil war) and go to Ala Migho, while Gaius finish Ultima Weapon and destroy all the cities.
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-17-2016 at 08:53 AM.

  5. #55
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    One thing though is the way Yoshi talked about their quest system, If they allow you to skip the MSQ to get to the new areas, you won't be able to go back and do the older quests and story because the quests will be flagged as completed. Until they change that system, which doesn't sound like it will be happening soon, anyone skipping the MSQ to 60 won't be experiencing any of the pre 60 MSQ on that character even if they later decide they want to and if they did allow you to go back, currently it would reset all your quest progression meaning you would have to go through and unlock everything again.
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  6. #56
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    You should have to complete 2.X and 3.X storyline to get to 4.X

    I will say that 2.X especially has way to much filler rubbish that should be binned though.
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  7. #57
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    June Moon
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I watched fan fast I don't remember that but I could be wrong, but 300 hours!?! Are you Fu... Kidding Me?! I can make a new character watch all the CS and complete all the MSQ in a few days, where do you get 300 hours from?
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  8. #58
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    Moxie Desu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    If ppl want to skip ARR and HW then just do the leveling potion for 1 job to 60 and charge them 40 bucks for it. Heck that's being lenient charge 60
    From my understanding of like 99% of the posts I've seen that are against the MSQ lock. They don't want max levels, they want to be able to access the area, get the new jobs, and or craft without having to do hundreds of quests just to even look at the new area.
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  9. #59
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    From my understanding of like 99% of the posts I've seen that are against the MSQ lock. They don't want max levels, they want to be able to access the area, get the new jobs, and or craft without having to do hundreds of quests just to even look at the new area.
    So they want less exp rewards?
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  10. #60
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    It's not a bad idea at all. FFXIV is one of the few MMO's that ensures that most content remains relevant throughout the different expansions and that is how it should remain for as long as possible. It's not only the 'end game' that matters - it's the entire package. The journey as well as the destination.
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