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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    The ONLY new race that has been added to FFXIV wasn't "cute". Male Au Ra looked feral and cool, and while female Au Ra could look cute with their petite frames, they can also look disturbing and monster-esque. It all depends on how you make them.
    No you cant make the female Au Ra disturbing. (Sadly..) I already choose the most adult face that they had and I still look quite cute. There is nothing wrong with looking cute, but at least give me the chance to look like a adult woman...not someone in her last teen years. I can somehow understand that they might not want to put much work into races that might no be played, but why would you create a new race anyway if its just a hyur with other parts? The only thing that you manage is that some people will fantasia into the new race and maybe a small population that starts the game because of the race. I hope that instead of a new race we will get a lot more options for the existing ones.

    Much more scales for the Au Ra, maybe even more adult looking faces. More scars/burns/tattoos in general (why do we have no scars options as Au Ra?) At least maybe I would finally be able to create a character that can look cute if she wants to (clothing..) but most of the time look more adult.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    Agreed but imo it shouldnt even be considered for ff14 waste of time n resources
    My biggest complaint about open world pvp on every game I played that had it, was you couldn't do main quests without people killing you, on a game like this largely focused on story that happening would be a mistake and a huge turn off. You had to be good at pvp enough to kill those who attack you and even then they came in groups.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    No you cant make the female Au Ra disturbing. (Sadly..) I already choose the most adult face that they had and I still look quite cute.
    Then we simply have a different idea of what cute is, since I've seen some Au Ra that looked quite scary to me *falls over*.

    I love their scales the way they are; you can still choose to add more or less scales to their faces. To you, Au Ra might be just hyurs with other parts. To me, they are an entire new race and a very nice and different concept (and they come with new emotes too!).

    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    According to the OP, SE has stated that any new races will be ONLY cute because that's what Japan wants. They didn't mention what non-Japanese players want at all. I think that's silly.
    Non Japanese players are also guilty of playing the most attractive races as a majority. When you are a company adding a new race, you tend to look for what the majority wants, not what a small minority demands.
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    Last edited by Clover_Blake; 10-17-2016 at 04:21 AM.

  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    Non Japanese players are also guilty of playing the most attractive races as a majority. When you are a company adding a new race, you tend to look for what the majority wants, not what a small minority demands.
    Indeed. But if the majority is already served with several races, why not serve the nichés instead for a change?

    In WoW, Humans are the most popular race by quite a margin - 16%. After that come Blood Elves with around 12-14%, then Night Elves with 10%. After than come the Undead with 8-7%, Orc with 7%, Tauren with 7%, Worgen with 7%, Draenai with 6%, Troll with 6% and then the rest with ~4 or less percent (Dwarf/Gnome/Goblin/Pandaren).

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/276315/distribution-of-world-of-warcraft-characters-by-race/
    Alternately try Warcraftrealms.com/census for similar results.

    If we were to only serve the majority, there would only be Humans and Blood Elves, maybepossibly Night Elves too. The rest would never get something they'd prefer - that is over 50% if accumulated.
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  5. #195
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    Working on a single, new race takes a lot of time, effort and resources considering how it takes a whole expansion just to add one - and I imagine the cutscenes play a major role in why it's not very straightforward. So with all that said, I can understand why they'd be reluctant to spend all of that effort designing a whole new race and pouring tons of effort into it just so 4% or less can enjoy it while the other 96% moan about how SE made such a terrible decision and that it was an awful addition etc etc.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Indeed. But if the majority is already served with several races, why not serve the nichés instead for a change?
    Well, to me it makes sense that if they want to add a single new race (remember that we've gotten only one new race so far!), it'd have to look like something many people would like. If it's also easier for the devs to make, even better! I find it logical from every angle, really.

    I just wish people could stop acting as if a certain race were bad -and as if the company had made a bad decision-, merely because it's not of their personal liking, and simply accept that it is of many other people's. That alone should suffice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knahli View Post
    Working on a single, new race takes a lot of time, effort and resources considering how it takes a whole expansion just to add one - and I imagine the cutscenes play a major role in why it's not very straightforward. So with all that said, I can understand why they'd be reluctant to spend all of that effort designing a whole new race and pouring tons of effort into it just so 4% or less can enjoy it while the other 96% moan about how SE made such a terrible decision and that it was an awful addition etc etc.
    And basically this. If they end up adding new races in the future and they happen to be good looking, it'll still be understandable. And so long as many people like them, it certainly won't be a bad thing.
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    Last edited by Clover_Blake; 10-17-2016 at 05:06 AM.

  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    In other words, I wish people could stop complaining that a certain race must be bad because it's not of their personal liking[...]
    That isn't the complaint. The complaint is that SE does not offer variety, which makes a new addition as such pointless, because it only adds more of the same. Imagine the only new haircuts in this game would be twin-tails, because that was deemed the most popular one of the original ones you offered before knowing which would be popular. You can have longer ones, some are more to the side, some come with a ribbon, some without but all new haircuts would be twin-tails. To you, that would be a good thing. I would find that boring and bad.

    And this is a difference in opinion we probably just have to accept.
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  8. #198
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    I'd never oppose more in-depth options that allow you to make a race less youthful or "cute" looking for the record, albeit you DO play the WoL, and the WoL is supposed to be young. So, as nice as it would be to make older looking characters, it goes against lore to do so and I can't blame them for not allowing you to look above a certain age.
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  9. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    That isn't the complaint. The complaint is that SE does not offer variety, which makes a new addition as such pointless, because it only adds more of the same. Imagine the only new haircuts in this game would be twin-tails, because that was deemed the most popular one of the original ones you offered before knowing which would be popular. You can have longer ones, some are more to the side, some come with a ribbon, some without but all new haircuts would be twin-tails. To you, that would be a good thing. I would find that boring and bad.

    And this is a difference in opinion we probably just have to accept.
    I agree that it all comes down to different opinions. I for one believe that the races we currently have do offer variety. They simply don't go into furry territory (not all games do), but a Roe isn't a lalafell, a lalafell isn't a hyur, and (to me) a hyur is not an Au Ra. We have races of all sizes and several age and beauty ranges.

    I mean, every person is a whole world and has different tastes, and it's normal for people to wish there was more, or for this or that race to cater to their most personal needs. There's simply no need to go as far as to imply that any current or future good looking race is bad, especially when good looking characters are what you should expect in most Japanese games (and the reason why many people like myself are atracted to them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knahli View Post
    I'd never oppose more in-depth options that allow you to make a race less youthful or "cute" looking for the record, albeit you DO play the WoL, and the WoL is supposed to be young. So, as nice as it would be to make older looking characters, it goes against lore to do so and I can't blame them for not allowing you to look above a certain age.
    Actually, most major NPCs are in their early thirties and older. For example, Aymeric is 32.

    While girls can't (which is lame), there are quite a few options for male characters to make obviously aged men. Save Lalafells, who at this point seem to officially not grow wrinkles, as we've seen plently of old men and women Lalas looking exactly the same as their children.

    So, this simply isn't true. It just falls back into the idea that most players go for the younger faces, but the option to be a grizzled veteran is there. Except if you are female, bleh.
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