Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Crysten]

To the DRK co-tank I had in the Raid Finder for Sophia Ex right now:

It's a Duty Complete farm party, and you don't know when to tank swap (hint: it's not 3 seconds after the tank buster). You told me "I got this." after the first wipe. You lied to me.

You did your job stereotype proud tonight after you let me die three times on the second pull, and then proceeded to have an edgy, brooding sulk in the corner after I point out that, no, you clearly haven't "got this" - During the fight, leaving the rest of the party to die.

The sole solace I have is that I actually managed to tank it solo through two more busters before I ran out of cooldowns, because the healers were winners.

[Atoli]

So, since I finally did Xelphatol this week, Mentor Roulette is a thing again.
I just...don't know how to even begin describing my experience in there just now ^^°

Went as AST, got Sastasha normal with 3 complete newbies (as in, first class, first time inside).
Got a future WAR, future SMN and future MNK (sorry, I'm not good with the English class names, so I'll refer to them by their future jobs from now on xD).

Threw on Protect, switched it out for Cleric Stance and we were ready to go!
Adorable first-timer lvl 15 WAR was very careful, only pulling 2-3 monsters at a time. I just proceeded to DPS because I'm not gonna push a new tank into anything he's uncomfortable with
Very, very quickly I had to realize though, that he was absolutely not interested in hitting more than one oppontent at a time, meaning I constantly had 2-3 adds on me.
I'm not so squishy that it would kill me, but it is annoying, interrupts my cast and keeps me from DPSing. Having to spam heal on myself generates so much heal aggro I eventually tank the entire group..not cool.
So, as careful and friendly as I could I tried to explain the problem (doesn't help that WAR is about the only class that I know literally NOTHING about..xD):

"Hey, [insert tank name] On your hotbar, there should be a skill called "Overpower". It's an AoE, meaning it hits all the monsters in front of you. Try using it at the beginning of a pull, with all the monsters in front of you, then they will attack you and not everyone else in the party!^^"
*awkward silence follows in which the WAR just keeps hitting a single monster out of every group with Heavy Swing, Heavy Swing, Heavy Swing*

I drop the topic since we are busy with all the fireflies and shells. After the first mini-boss, the trouble continues, and in general, I notice a distinct lack of DPS whenever I have to stop DPSing to spam-heal myself.
A closer look reveals that the Arcanist's pet is not attacking. It's summoned, but just tripples around boredly, obviously got ordered to not participate in the fights at all. And DoTs are at most used on 1 monster out of each pull.
Ehm okay.
What?
I'm halfway through typing a sentence that adequately shows my incredulity while also staying friendly and helpful and understanding to newbies, but never get to send it, because that's about the time when the second caster in the group decides this is all not going fast enough for him and starts running headfirst into every enemy group and bossroom in range, before the tank ofc (who never gets aggro back because who cares about Overpower..>.>). So I struggle to keep this guy alive while somewhere in the back of my head, alarm bells start ringing. Yet it still takes me until the final room before the boss to realize the thing that seemed off the entire time: there is no second caster in this group. The second DPS was a MNK, wasn't he? ô.o
But then who is the guy in the Cotton Cowl? I examine him, and lose all trust in humanity as I see that he is wearing the full mage set, from boots to body/head to even jewelry. As a pre-MNK.
Somewhere, a last remnant of my sanity tries to find explanations, maybe he started as a mage class, maybe he didn't have time, quests and Gil available to gear up his MNK. Maybe...a look at his profile shows all classes but MNK at zero.

I..
I try to be nice.
I'm a mentor. He probably just doesn't know.
"Ehm, [name of the MNK]?
In case you weren't aware, all your current gear is for mages. Meaning it severely limits your ability to deal damage as a pugilist ^^
You should try to wear gear that gives you additional strength from now on, not intelligence and mind "
*awkward silence follows, as once again I get ignored and the ill-equipped MNK runs straight into the bossroom and starts the fight while I scurry to get in before the gate closes*

Let's just say, nobody bothers with boss mechanics, which is a problem, because party DMG is so incredibly horrible that "just burn the boss down" is not an option (we were at ~12 adds by the time the boss was at 50% HP T-T).
MNK is definitely convinced he is not a melee, because he'd be damned to touch that LB button
Because I'm also not a healer but a tank in a healer's body appearently, we somehow survive and finally finish the dungeon xD
I just accept that the chat is a foreign object to these 3 people but basic curtesy tells me to still say my goodbyes.
"Thanks for the run, and please try the advice^^"
I don't expect an answer.
This party has shown more than obviously how they treat the chat.
But just as I am about to hit "yes" on leaving, the tank suddenly speaks!

"[MNK name] ur crap
rest gg"

...aaand he's gone o_o'
The MNK does not respond, wins the roll on the Acolyte's Robe and unequipps his Cotton Cowl, and before he can realize that the Acolyte's Robe is for mages only and he won't be able to equip it, I flee from this insanity.

[Dreamsoap]

Just tried running Aetherochemical. Not really sure what was going on, done this a bunch of times no problem. DRK tank did a normal pull to the first wall, we wiped because he didn't keep proper aggro and the healer was trying to keep herself alive.
Managed to get them on me instead and switch to earth stance, tried to run them back to the tank but he had already died. Second try he halves the group sizing and we make it to the first boss. Through the tank still
had aggro issues along the way, not helped by the healer who stands off in the distance healing through things instead of running the strays to us. Took me a while to notice sometimes, though a little peeved I was the one who had to notice
and the tank wasn't paying attention. Anyway, we wipe halfway through first boss for ...reasons? We're not sure what happened. It seems like the tank died during or just left or something. We had to abandon. :-[

[Fluestergras]

Dzemael Darkhold. The tank always tanked the mobs wherever they stood. Didn't move them to blue crystal zones, didn't pull them out of exploding crystal AOEs.
I was a monk. HALP.

[Acantha]

The second DPS was a MNK, wasn't he? ô.o
But then who is the guy in the Cotton Cowl? I examine him, and lose all trust in humanity as I see that he is wearing the full mage set, from boots to body/head to even jewelry. As a pre-MNK.
Somewhere, a last remnant of my sanity tries to find explanations, maybe he started as a mage class, maybe he didn't have time, quests and Gil available to gear up his MNK. Maybe...a look at his profile shows all classes but MNK at zero.

I'll admit, I started as an Archer (future Bard ^^) and when I went into Satsasha the first time I was wearing a cowl - I didn't realise about the +Int etc below I only looked at the Def & Magic Def and it outweighed anything else I had so thought it was the right gear! >.<

I..
I try to be nice.
I'm a mentor. He probably just doesn't know.
"Ehm, [name of the MNK]?
In case you weren't aware, all your current gear is for mages. Meaning it severely limits your ability to deal damage as a pugilist ^^
You should try to wear gear that gives you additional strength from now on, not intelligence and mind "
*awkward silence follows, as once again I get ignored and the ill-equipped MNK runs straight into the bossroom and starts the fight while I scurry to get in before the gate closes*

However, like you did, someone explained to me in Satsasha that I needed Disciple of War gear, ideally with Dex and omg did my life improve :P But, even though at the time I had no wireless keyboard and I was playing on Ps4, I quickly typed out "sorry, thank you, still learning" or something to that effect. There's no need to ignore people :/ and definitely to not then get in a mood and pull everything you can! :s

I just accept that the chat is a foreign object to these 3 people but basic curtesy tells me to still say my goodbyes.
"Thanks for the run, and please try the advice^^"
I don't expect an answer.
This party has shown more than obviously how they treat the chat.
But just as I am about to hit "yes" on leaving, the tank suddenly speaks!

"[MNK name] ur crap
rest gg"

...aaand he's gone o_o'
The MNK does not respond, wins the roll on the Acolyte's Robe and unequipps his Cotton Cowl, and before he can realize that the Acolyte's Robe is for mages only and he won't be able to equip it, I flee from this insanity.

Lol who was he to say anything to the Mnk!? These kinda stories make me worried for if I ever get to Mentor Roulette, I was hoping it would be people happy to take advice >.< I guess it's the same as normal DF
Hopefully they do take your advice though & get to enjoy the game properly.

[The_Shang]

Atoli, I've heard stories like that before. A friend of mine ran into a mage-geared tank in Toto-Rak once and it was a horrible run for her to say the least. While we joke about it now (I even used a Cotton Cowl glamour on my Warrior for a while when she was running dungeons with me for leveling), it's not something you ever want to see.

[Rhyku]

Gubal Hard last night. Tank is new to instance, yay bonus. 1st warning sign comes, when healer starts grumbling about "not this again" when he loads in. All in all, a bit uneventful with healer pulling mobs ahead of the tank, but nothing we couldn't handle. The real trouble came after the 2nd flame boss. Healer sprints ahead and pulls all three groups of mobs, dk tries to grab aggro back, couldn't handle it and dies. We wipe twice before healer starts cursing the tank out for being useless. Noting after the 1st wipe, healer refused to prot or SS the party, and after being reminded several times, cusses us out, saying that his parties can deal without protect and we were weak casuals. Poor tank took the brunt of the abuse. After looking at tank's gear and seeing that he was new, we all tried defending him against the abusive healer, but we were told to shut up, and stop catering our play styles to shit players. (uh what?) A vote dismiss was initiated against the tank, and very luckily, it didn't go through.

Suffice to say, at 1am odd in the morning, we weren't going to deal with the abuse, and he was vote dismissed. The other DD called in his FC mate as a replacement and we cleared that instance with no problems after. Poor tank, the other monk and I felt really sorry for him. He tried his best with 210 gear but hey... clearly it isn't enough for some people who just want to mass pull and finish the dungeon in 10 seconds.

[Acantha]

1st warning sign comes, when healer starts grumbling about "not this again" when he loads in. .

But... Gubal HM's still new! and not exactly boring?! I liked it >.< ugh. Can't understand some people. You wanna speed run without asking first or being at all polite, make a PF or grab your friends who will put up with you.

[Mysterysword]

MS roulette drops me, as AST, into Castrum Meridianum, where the party consists of a PLD, WAR, 2 ASTs, 1 MNK, and 3 DRGs.

As we get to the 1st boss, I suggest doing smaller pulls, since the DPS seem to be running into TP issues with spamming AoEs on large pulls. The MNK promptly speaks up, claiming that Castrum "takes forever" and that if we do smaller pulls, they will kill themselves.

Well, at least I'm not the one being told to off myself this time. So apparently, daring to suggest smaller pulls, which supposedly makes a run take longer, makes me a bitch now.

In my past experience, Castrum takes about 20 minutes, with decent AoE DPS and a tank that knows what they're doing. Since we had neither, it ended up taking about 25-30 minutes instead.

Still, if 20 minutes counts as "forever" for some people, their bedroom lives must be simply awful.

[Iceboy]

Midas 1, trying to get a few bolts for alt classes.

One of our tanks dced, but the other one just said "Its ok, I can solo tank this, Just watch out for his tankbuster".

We got some new ppl, so he just explained every mechanic for them and we were good to go.

Even with 2 wipes, we got our clear.

If anyone know a guy named Nombre Apellido, tell him he's awesome. =)