Why do Prototype chest pieces still take 4 weeks to obtain?.

[LunaFaye]

Maybe you don't care, but some crafters do. They charge much less to craft something for you than the price on the MB on the assumption that you're going to actually use the equipment you crafted for them.

You can't blame the community for your wrong/false assumptions. There's no crafting contract between a person and you, if you assume that the person wearing the item after you crafted it, than that's on you.

Obviously a crafter charges less for items he/she crafted for someone, if the person brings their own mats, however it's still not free like some people trying to argue. If you as a crafter want to make money, get your own mats, craft the item put it on mb. Sitting all day on the game, trying to find work via pf (own recruitment or responding to it) is not the way to go, but again that's your own fault if you chose to go that route. There's plenty of other and quicker ways to make money if that's what you're looking for, however be aware that after a couple of months, the item you try to work so "hard" for, will be a part of your retainers venture. Don't start complaining that you missed out on the pocket change because you were sitting for 8 months on the pf forcing people to equip the item you just crafted because you cared so much.

[FoxyAreku]

Not gonna read the whole topic, but if you find a crafter that is dumb enough to just craft an item without charging for it, because the other person got all mats that's on him.

I do it for friends or fc members when I am in an fc, but the moment I offer my services on the pf, despite the fact that the person has all the mats, I still charge you for my effort of having to click 5 buttons and shards. I don't care what a person does after that with the product.

He could be standing naked on his head, cracking nuts with his butt cheeks while throwing the chest piece in the air. All I care about is, I got paid for the minimal effort I've done and made someone that has no crafting professions happy and donated a little bit of gil (in case he sells it). Win win situation.

I craft for free, thanks for calling me dumb for offering a service for people lol.

I don't actually care if people sell it, honestly, it's just kinda scummy, and I would just passively warn people of that person in the future if I found out they were selling something I made.

Because you can tell exactly how other people can and should spend their time? as if everyone wants to grind the same old dungeons to farm lore mats, as if everyone has the gathering gear to get the mats to get the stuff crafted in the first place.



you can't tell that i just copied and edited your statement?

Your arguments don't even make sense anymore. I never even hinted to sell things that people make for you, as the point of it was to get a crafted piece made to use. Unless you're talking about getting one piece crafted so you can buy another piece...which...doesn't make any sense? Why not just get the piece you need crafted? XD

And if someone wants to waste their time getting a chest from A12, by all means go and do it. No one said you can't. It's just more efficient to do something else, and that is the problem. The lack of efficiency for going for an A12 chest is what makes it useless. I'm sorry if that is hard to understand, I thought it was pretty straightforward.

[LunaFaye]

I don't actually care if people sell it, honestly, it's just kinda scummy, and I would just passively warn people of that person in the future if I found out they were selling something I made.

That's the definition of caring. The moment you feel anything, in your case as you describe it as scummy, means you actually care. Otherwise you would not feel the need of having to warn others about the person (passively/actively/intentionally). If you don't care at all, you would just let it go and next time that person msg's you, ignore/deny the request. You're the only one to blame, if you feel that way after having discovered that someone resold something you made for free.

[Mandudez]

That's the definition of caring. The moment you feel anything, in your case as you describe it as scummy, means you actually care. Otherwise you would not feel the need of having to warn others about the person (passively/actively/intentionally). If you don't care at all, you would just let it go and next time that person msg's you, ignore/deny the request. You're the only one to blame, if you feel that way after having discovered that someone resold something you made for free.

Man the petty off-topic things people on the main forums argue about just for the sake of fighting...

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if this topic get's locked like so many other good topics ruined by off topic arguments.

[RyuSaarva]

It sort of made sense kinda back in Gordias as there was no crafted pieces and you could obtain a weapon first from tomestones but since Midas it's made no sense at all, you can get a better chest piece in the first week or second week.

Probably too late now but shafts probably should have been obtainable from third floors also.

there was crafted gear but only raiders bought them because they were too expensive for casual raiders.

[Lulu89]

At the end of the day, it need to be 2 weeks just like the tome body! The end!

[CaedemSanguis]

The complete tome gear take three months to obtain. The complete prototype gear take 1 months to obtain.

[ChocoFeru]

Always level and gear your crafts and gatherers! I crafted all my gear (GSM, WVR and CRP) except boots because it was LTW, but still it was "free" since I gathered and crafted everything by myself

Now I don't have to do Alex normal! (well, just A12 weekly for the weapon item)

[Blood-Aki]

The complete tome gear take three months to obtain. The complete prototype gear take 1 months to obtain.

But the tome gear is actually upgradable, and will last you far longer (till next iupgrade) then the prototype gear that you'll easily replace, either BY the tome gear, raiding gear or even crafted gear with basic free melding slots, yet it takes 4 weeks to get the body, which by the time you get the shafts for it, you no longer will ever need it. No idea why they keept that decision.